King's Gambit A Challenge From Ponz

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Ben_Dubuque

I would slightly dissagree with the line you posted Arkhimeedes, after Ne5 in you subvariation, d6 works well as it takes the g4 square from the white queen regardless, puts the knight to question, and offers a slight advantage to black as now Qh4+is possible.

TheMushroomDealer

Actually 5..Nc6! is the best BUT my idea wasn't to show the best play in that variation just show that the tempting g4, followed by Qh4 just after it is wrong. Even 5..h5 can be played in oder of defending the pawn.   

TheMushroomDealer
ponz111
einstein99 wrote:

What about 2 f4d5?

1. e4  e5  2. f4  d5 does not give Black any advantage.  It is ok but just gives an equal game.

Archerknight
pfren wrote:
jetfighter13 wrote:

maybe white should try Bc4 instead of h4

That is a great way to lose without any fight (4...Bg7!- no Muzio nonsense).

Best thing is to refute the Muzio, which is not hard.

steve_bute
Archerknight wrote:
pfren wrote:
jetfighter13 wrote:

maybe white should try Bc4 instead of h4

That is a great way to lose without any fight (4...Bg7!- no Muzio nonsense).

Best thing is to refute the Muzio, which is not hard.

Not hard? In 400 years, no one has refuted it yet.

Ben_Dubuque

yeah the duoble Muzio... maybe.... actually probably by Qf5 but you still need serious tactical skill and knowledge of games played in that variation in order to survive.

ponz111

This is the Muzio Gambit

ponz111

For the correct sequence for Black see my game vs Porcelli which started this way:

Ben_Dubuque

and isn't Nc3 advisable that or d4 seem best.

Archerknight

In my analysis I found that  4... g4 is best.

Ben_Dubuque

that is very interesting. That does of course force (well sort of) 0-0 from white.

ponz111
jetfighter13 wrote:

and isn't Nc3 advisable that or d4 seem best.

Please be more clear what position you refer to.

ponz111
Archerknight wrote:

In my analysis I found that  4... g4 is best.

Disagree on this one. I do not think Black should allow the Muzio Gambit.

steve_bute
ponz111 wrote:
Archerknight wrote:

In my analysis I found that  4... g4 is best.

Disagree on this one. I do not think Black should allow the Muzio Gambit.

One of the few things that's been said so far that I agree with :). Black has a better option after 4.Bc4: the Hanstein Gambit.

Ben_Dubuque

after Nc6 sorry Ponz

ponz111

Fiinally  a draw game!  Luft Waffles  1/2  ponz111  1/2

However, for fun I thought I would try 1. e4  e5  2. f4  exf4  3. Nf3  d5

rather than the 3. Nf3  g5 of the other games.  So here it is and I am sure Luft Waffles will post comments on this game.

ponz111

Right now of the 9 games I am playing [Centaur games] as Black against the Kings Gambit my score is 5 wins and 1 draw [vs Luft Waffles above] with 3 games still going on. I will give the 3 games...

ro1-g11 vs ponz111

ponz111

RRM888 vs Ponz11


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ponz111

and last the game Chess King Dreamer vs ponz111

Note it follows the game by RRM888 for several moves.