If 3.Bc4 were busted, the chess world would have seen it written and told, with evidence, in the biggest, boldest, HTML font imaginable.
kings gambit players lets discuss our opening
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That's not an argument, that's you being a shill.
Nov 14, 2013
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#4
i disagree id bet money u cant beat me as black after we start from the postion after 1.e4 e5 2.f4 exf4 3.bc4... ill let u figure that part, im claiming that u cannot win with black. ill turn on houdini and probably beat u with white based of the analysis ive done but i wanna see blacks best play after the accepted variation with b c4 because ive done plenty of analysis, i dont think the falkbeer gives black an advantage or does it? against the kings gambit after f4 i play the Q+ then back to e7 variation
Nov 14, 2013
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#5
im sorry i wasnt more clear, i mean the kings gambit accepted variation with 3. b c4... ive seen d5 played, c6, n c6, n f3 qh4+,e6, im aware b c5 is bad as well as g5, but in all the playable variations ive been able to keep with with the advantage with houdini and i thought the kings gambit was inferior
R&O ... Perhaps you haven't been in chess long to understand what most chess books are worth? They aren't printed to advance theory; the top players would never give away potentially winning ideas.
Nov 14, 2013
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#7
richie_and_oprah wrote:
first, i am not playing 2 ... exf4 i am playing 2 .... d5 3. ed ef
then 4. Bc4 is simply met by 4 .... Nf6 and we are in themodern defense
and i dont care how much 'analysis' you have done, you are wrong about what you claim and it has been proven and printed as well as available on other free websites
this information is what im looking for, i just want insight im not claiming to know for certain just what i know from my personal study and ill look into the modern defense more thanks. ive only done analysis with houdini but havent gone over that variation with d5, but my main point was that the kings gambit accepted is overrated for black just according to my own analysis... as a kings gambit player i wanna know whats the actual best defense and how to meet it so thanks for enlightening me a little bit and yes ill do some homework
Nov 14, 2013
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#8
richie_and_oprah wrote:
after
1. e4 e5
2. f4 ef
3. Bc4 Nc6! white cannot even equalize
this line is well known among strong players ... period ... black is =/+ and white has zero chances to gain advantage agianst a well prepared defender in this line and even gets a losing position with best play
ive gotta agree its blacks best play with nc6 but ive got houdini and houdini has showed me how to handle that variation, not saying i know the ultimate truth but i think u should do a little bit of homework ill play u a game from that postion ill take white all day
richie_and_oprah wrote:
when i getback from Kings island tournament this weekend i will send you a challenge
NO ENGINE USE ...ok?
Have more confidence in your claims. Insist that your opponents use engines and that you will win because you know your opening evaluation to be correct.
Nov 14, 2013
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#10
richie_and_oprah wrote:
the kings gambit is NOT over rated for black ,,, there is no way for white to equalize
the best lines for white is now in the quaade variation in which an early nc3 is essayed but even here black maintains a slight pull
perhaps one of the titled players here can come in and then after agreeing with this assesment you will accept it
meanwhile, all this work has been hacked out and is available in many places on the web and only those people that are not up on current theory are going to get cvaught out as black in any of these lines
Blacks best is still to accept and play ...g5 lines but those are still sharp and the modern defense is easier to play and takes away all whites chances for advantage
now, this does not mean black will outplay white all game, only that THEORETICALLY there is no chance for white to eqaualize and they are giving black =/+ in this opening
im not arguing or being ignorant like im so in love with that opening, i want some truth. Im just skeptical because if the most powerful chess engine rated higher than any GM can win with white ive gotta give it a chance im just being open minded but i need evidence not hearsay from another GM... bobby fischer played it so its gotta be playable at the highest level
Nov 14, 2013
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#11
ill play u fairly of course... but if u win it doesnt prove much other than u beat me. if we both had assistance from chess engines i dont think u will win with black thats all i gotta say, im sure your a good expirienced player and if u did win its because u beat me not the opening itself
how do u guys handle the kings gambit? i just honestly dont see how black gains an advantage if white plays the 3.bc4 variation, ive analyzed this a lot and ive always been able to maintain the white edge and then some.