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ThrillerFan

Jul 14, 2015

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#21

The_Ghostess_Lola wrote:

(Najdorfian #12) The King's Gambit has been used by Carlsen and Nakamura with great success.

Wait a second ....I thought BF busted it with his self-proclaimed double exclamation 3...d6!!

Amazing to me then that these two still play it....hmmm.

Accepting the King's Gambit gives Black the advantage - White can't even equalize - but it's not via Fischer's line. After 3.Nf3, 3...g5 and 3...d5 both are stronger and give Black an advantage with correct play by both sides.

ipcress12

Jul 14, 2015

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#22

Reb wrote:

One of the most interesting things to me is that of the great KG players (white pieces ) some clearly preferred 3 Nf3 while some preferred 3 Bc4 . I have played the KG as white over the years and have always preferred 3 Nf3 personally . Black has many good choices against the KG so white has a great deal of work to do if they want to use this opening with any success . I have 3 books on the KG but wish Spassky had written one on it as he was , imo, the foremost expert on the opening .

Reb: I'd like to hear more about your experience in the trenches with the King's Gambit.

When do you decide to play it? Against whom? With what results?

Assuming you're willing to explain without compromising your repertoire...

TheDrevland

Jul 14, 2015

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#23

all lines black can play against the kings gambit is at least equal so just pick the one you enjoy the most:)

ThrillerFan

Jul 14, 2015

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#24

Fiveofswords wrote:

ThrillerFan wrote:

serperior wrote:

Hey, can anyone give me some tips on how to play AGAINST the Kings Gambit. It is complicated and I dont know what to play against it. please give some tips. Thanks!!!

If your desire is simplicity and survival, and you aren't looking to outright refute it, your best bet is the Classical Variation:

1.e4 e5 2.f4 Bc5! 3.Nf3 d6.

It doesn't "bust" the King's Gambit like accepting it does, but it's simple, effective, and gives Black at least full equality.

There is really just one rule of thumb you must keep in mind. Don't develop your Queen's Knight to c6 until after White has moved his King's Bishop. After say, 1.e4 e5 2.f4 Bc5 3.Nf3 d6 4.Nc3, 4...Nc6 is a mistake because of 5.Bb5!, which is very strong. But after say, 1.e4 e5 2.f4 Bc5 3.Nf3 d6 4.Bc4 (or 5.Bc4, then doing it move 5 is fine), here 4...Nc6 is perfectly fine because if White now wants to pin you, he has to waste a move doing it, and you can put the extra move to good use.

this way of declining the gambit also can occur from the vienna. i would love for people to end their analysis there and declare that black is equal. sure. its that simple. please give me that position :p

Well, you can love for people to end analysis at your OCD convenience, but you are wrong about this and the Vienna being the same thing. This line is no good in the Vienna.

After 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.f4, Black must accept, or at least find a different way of declining than 3...Bc5, which is dubious because White still hasn't committed his Bishop, and can go to b5 instead of c4 with an advantage. If White is naive enough to go 4.Bc4, then Black lucked out!

Also, via the King's Gambit, White is under no obligation to play 4.Nc3, and can just as easily put the pawn on c3 instead of the Knight.

sanjay2000

Jul 14, 2015

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#25

I like 1. e4 e5 2.f4 exf4 3. nf3 Be7

X_PLAYER_J_X

Jul 14, 2015

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#26

I believe the Fischer Defense is still the best. I usually play that as black.

However, I have come up with a line that I play. Its my super secret line. Which sets a few traps.

Most times the line tranposes into the Fischer Defense. Its not a forced tranposition.

I like 2...d6. The draw back is sometimes the position can turn into a weird Vienna. Known as Vienna Game/Omaha Gambit.

It just depends on what white plays at move 3 against this.

If they play 3.Nc3 than you have the Vienna Game/Omaha Gambit which I don't think is that great of a Vienna line. So I'm happy to play against that as black.

If they play 3.Nf3 than the position turns into the Fischer Defense.

TitanCG

Jul 14, 2015

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#27

I think the easiest thing to do is to play either the declined with 1.e4 e5 2.f4 Bc5 or the modern 1.e4 e5 2.f4 d5. In both cases you'll get by better on development and knowing what to do. Then if you decide you want to play more active lines you can take the pawn. Playing the main lines now risks running into a lot of obscure positions that require moves that aren't exactly natural.

Hadron

Jul 14, 2015

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