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ElectricEel
ElectricEel
May 20, 2010
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#21

Well, c4 doesn't really sac a pawn... so you could still play for an open game without making any major concessions apart from the IQP.

Fromper
Fromper
May 20, 2010
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#22
AtahanT wrote:
zxb995511 wrote:
AtahanT wrote:

I don't like facing the french. There is no good option to force the game into an open game.

LOL sees to me that you have never played and exchange French then. Apart from the exchange variation there are quite a few gambits that give life to white's play.

Uhm, in any other opening you can get an open game without risking a pawn and the exchange variation is really not that great if you're fighting for an advantage. I mean compare it to the caro-kann which is extremely solid but you can still force an open game with the panov attack and the only consession is the IQP and not a whole pawn sac. This is why so many e4 players hate the french while they do not have any problems facing all the other defenses.

So play the Exchange French and then push c4. You'll get a similar IQP position to the Panov. Not exactly the same, but it's not a gambit, and it's an open game with a less balanced pawn structure than in the quieter Exchange French lines.

panandh
panandh
May 20, 2010
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#23

I hate sicilian

ElectricEel
ElectricEel
May 20, 2010
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#24
Gambitking wrote:
Fromper wrote:

So play the Exchange French and then push c4. You'll get a similar IQP position to the Panov. Not exactly the same, but it's not a gambit, and it's an open game with a less balanced pawn structure than in the quieter Exchange French lines.

Fromper! I'm disappointed in you, LOL!

Who would play it if it's not a gambit???

 GambitKing, what do you have against the poor pawns? Laughing

ElectricEel
ElectricEel
May 20, 2010
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#25

I suppose there are several distinct viewpoints (on the subject of pawns), two of which are particularly drastic:

1. Cannon fodder, to be thrown to the lions - good riddance

2. The 'Soul' of chess (and the pieces are 'only' their followers).

AtahanT
AtahanT
May 20, 2010
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#26
Fromper wrote:
AtahanT wrote:
zxb995511 wrote:
AtahanT wrote:

I don't like facing the french. There is no good option to force the game into an open game.

LOL sees to me that you have never played and exchange French then. Apart from the exchange variation there are quite a few gambits that give life to white's play.

Uhm, in any other opening you can get an open game without risking a pawn and the exchange variation is really not that great if you're fighting for an advantage. I mean compare it to the caro-kann which is extremely solid but you can still force an open game with the panov attack and the only consession is the IQP and not a whole pawn sac. This is why so many e4 players hate the french while they do not have any problems facing all the other defenses.

So play the Exchange French and then push c4. You'll get a similar IQP position to the Panov. Not exactly the same, but it's not a gambit, and it's an open game with a less balanced pawn structure than in the quieter Exchange French lines.

It's very inferior compared to the panov-botvinnik attack which is why it is rarely played.

CCBTheDestroyer
CCBTheDestroyer
May 20, 2010
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#27

I HATE playing black against 1. NF3... Gambitking do you have any good gambits against this?

CCBTheDestroyer
CCBTheDestroyer
May 20, 2010
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#28

Thanks gambit king. 

transience
transience
May 20, 2010
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#29

As a dynamic English player, I dislike most variations of the Symmetrical, which are rather tame in comparison to the Reversed Sicilian, the Grand Prix Attack Reversed or the Keres Attack.

Playing with the black pieces, I loathe Closed Sicilians.

CCBTheDestroyer
CCBTheDestroyer
May 20, 2010
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#30
Gambitking wrote:
futuregm23 wrote:

Thanks gambit king. 

You're welcome! But be warned--a lot those ideas are untested, and in their infancy... so you REALLY have an opportunity to surprise some players!

exactly what I like!!!!!!

ElectricEel
ElectricEel
May 21, 2010
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#31

Futuregm23, I would just play 1.c5 in response to Nf3 if you don't mind playing a Sicilian (which it often transposes into).

IWillBlunderAlways
IWillBlunderAlways
May 21, 2010
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#32

Giuoco piano, and KID, they seem just so slow

leightonnicholls
leightonnicholls
May 21, 2010
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#33

I don't really try openings, but I am not good at this one, I have played a few games with it >>>> (This is my worst opening!)

http://www.chess.com/opening/eco/B20_Sicilian_Defense_King_Davids_Opening

madhatter5
madhatter5
Show your flair!
May 21, 2010
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#34

Cant stand the pirc

ElectricEel
ElectricEel
May 21, 2010
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#35

Haha, King David's Opening. Here's another one of those that just has to be a critical line:

 

Look's to be the chess equivalent of parkour...

CCBTheDestroyer
CCBTheDestroyer
May 21, 2010
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#36
ElectricEel wrote:

Futuregm23, I would just play 1.c5 in response to Nf3 if you don't mind playing a Sicilian (which it often transposes into).

The thing is I don't play the sicilian.  I play the scandinavian (center counter)

Maria_Mihai
Maria_Mihai
May 21, 2010
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#37

electriceel, what is that???????????? i really don't get that one. e3? e5 b3? d5 ke2?? nf6 kd3??? e4 + kc3 nc6 kb2?

i mean what the heck is that??

Maria_Mihai
Maria_Mihai
May 21, 2010
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#38

i like playing c4, but i hate playing against it

Gerik
Gerik
May 21, 2010
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#39

I dislike the four knights. I can never come up with a proper plan.

ElectricEel
ElectricEel
May 21, 2010
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#40

It's the chess equivalent of saying: 'my King has a death wish. Come and get me.'