Lolli attack Nxd4!? > fxd4

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Avatar of DreErique

So the typical lolli attack goes

how should white respond to black playing Nxd4?

Avatar of piphilologist

7.c3 seems to win material (7...Ne6 8.Qxd5)

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Avatar of moonnie

Why would black play 5. ... Nxd5 in the first place. It is a serious blunder and black should lose after it.

Avatar of pfren

7.c3 b5 8.Bxd5 (8.Bd3 h6! 9.Qh5 hg5 10.Qxh8 e4 is messy, and at best slightly better for white) Qxd5 9.f3! c5 10.0-0 when Black has some compensation for the piece he is about to lose, but not quite enough. Actually this seems to be the only playable variation for Black in the Lolli.

And... no, 5...Nxd5 does not lose, and 6.Nxf7?! is an inferior move.

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madhacker wrote:
 

Why play the messy 6.Nxf7?! when 6.d4 is simply better for white

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madhacker wrote:

alot of people are sugjusting the fried liver, but the lolli offence has statistically a greater win rate than the fried liver, atleast thats what i have been told.

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All the videos i seen on it say its better than the fried liver.

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AcivilizedGentleman wrote:

d4 is a bad move. nxf7 followed by qf3 is better.

No d4 is the best move. the idea is you play Nxf7 anyway a few moves later before black can castle when youve got more pieces out to attack with.

Avatar of Hyeyoung

Instead of NxD5, I do QxD5.