London System Denial?

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AltiboxChef
I'm curious, is there an opening you can play against 1.d4 that makes 2.Bf4 not playable?
kindaspongey

1...e5

old_acc_mm
1. ... g5
Yigor

Well, Borg gambit 1...g5 looks too bad, but the Englund gambit 1...e5 is indeed playable and prevents 2. Bf4. peshka.png

ThrillerFan

Best way to avoid the London (or make it outright bad) is the Modern Defense.

1.d4 g6 2.Bf4?! Bg7 3.e3 d6 4.Nf3 Nc6 5.h3 e5! and now retreating the Bishop is the best White has, which is equal.  Bad is 6.dxe5?! dxe5 7.Qxd8 Kxd8 8.Bg5? f6! with advantage to Black.  This is heavily covered in the "Chess on the Edge" series along with recent books (last 15 or so years) on the Modern Defense.

MorphysMayhem
Yigor wrote:

Well, Borg gambit 1...g5 looks too bad, but the Englund gambit 1...e5 is indeed playable and prevents 2. Bf4.

WTF???? the Englund gambit practically loses by force.......

jjacksonIV

I've found Benonis seem to seriously complicate playing the London. 2.Bf4 is still playable, but the pawn structure that generally goes with the London gets really wacked.

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Yigor
Morphys-Revenge wrote:
Yigor wrote:

Well, Borg gambit 1...g5 looks too bad, but the Englund gambit 1...e5 is indeed playable and prevents 2. Bf4.

WTF???? the Englund gambit practically loses by force.......

 

Maybe the top-GM or engine force, definitely not yours. peshka.png

Yigor
pfren wrote:
Yigor έγραψε:
WTF???? the Englund gambit practically loses by force.......

 

Maybe the top-GM force, definitely not mine.

No need to thank me- I fixed your typo.

 

LoL All right, not mine too. I said top-GMs, but I guess that U also could refute the Englund gambit (at least, while playing with me). grin.png

Pulpofeira

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Tdrev
AltiboxChef wrote:
I'm curious, is there an opening you can play against 1.d4 that makes 2.Bf4 not playable?

before answering this, what do you play against the mainline 1.d4 followed by 2.c4 stuff?