Long Story of Ilundain Scandinavian

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The story of Ilundain Variation goes back to the possibly first recorded chess game Castellvi - Vinyoles (1475): https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1259987

 

 

Wikipedia: "The retreat with 3...Qd8 was depicted in Castellvi–Vinyoles, and may be the oldest of all Scandinavian lines. Prior to the 20th century, it was often considered the main line, and was characterized as "best" by Howard Staunton in his Chess-Player's Handbook,[19] but was gradually superseded by 3...Qa5. In the 1960s, 3...Qd8 experienced something of a revival after the move was played in a game by Bronstein against GM Andrija Fuderer in 1959, although Bronstein ultimately lost the game.[20] Bronstein's game featured the older line 4.d4 Nf6, while other grandmasters, including Karl Robatsch, explored fianchetto systems with 4.d4 g6 and a later ...Ng8–h6.

The line's reputation suffered after a string of defeats, however, including two well-known miniatures won by Bobby Fischer against Robatsch in the 1962 Chess Olympiad (later published in My 60 Memorable Games) and William Addison in 1970. The variation with 4...g6 "has been under a cloud ever since [Fischer's] crushing win",[21] but the 3...Qd8 variation as a whole remains playable, although it is now considered somewhat passive. It is played particularly by IMs John Bartholomew and Daniel Lowinger, and by the GMs David Garcia and Nikola Djukic."

Well, in this thread I'll also discuss other historical games featuring this variation. settings.pngpeshka.png

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Ilundain variation games during 19th century:

https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=2018959

https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1242885

(to be continued)

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Best moves are 4. Nf3 and 4. d4. Castellvi in 1475 played 4. Bc4. peshka.png

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this will help in C/B00 which will now have this game (i think)

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Ilampozhil25 wrote:

this will help in C/B00 which will now have this game (i think)

 

All Scandinavian games are classified as B01. wink.png

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ok lol

anyway it will still help

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Yigor wrote:

The story of Ilundain Variation goes back to the possibly first recorded chess game Castellvi - Vinyoles (1475): https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1259987

 

 

Wikipedia: "The retreat with 3...Qd8 was depicted in Castellvi–Vinyoles, and may be the oldest of all Scandinavian lines. Prior to the 20th century, it was often considered the main line, and was characterized as "best" by Howard Staunton in his Chess-Player's Handbook,[19] but was gradually superseded by 3...Qa5. In the 1960s, 3...Qd8 experienced something of a revival after the move was played in a game by Bronstein against GM Andrija Fuderer in 1959, although Bronstein ultimately lost the game.[20] Bronstein's game featured the older line 4.d4 Nf6, while other grandmasters, including Karl Robatsch, explored fianchetto systems with 4.d4 g6 and a later ...Ng8–h6.

The line's reputation suffered after a string of defeats, however, including two well-known miniatures won by Bobby Fischer against Robatsch in the 1962 Chess Olympiad (later published in My 60 Memorable Games) and William Addison in 1970. The variation with 4...g6 "has been under a cloud ever since [Fischer's] crushing win",[21] but the 3...Qd8 variation as a whole remains playable, although it is now considered somewhat passive. It is played particularly by IMs John Bartholomew and Daniel Lowinger, and by the GMs David Garcia and Nikola Djukic."

 

Well, in this thread I'll also discuss other historical games featuring this variation.

wait didnt ruy lopez de segura have older recorded games???????

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Ilampozhil25 wrote:

wait didnt ruy lopez de segura have older recorded games???????

 

No, Ruy Lopez was born in 1530. wink.png

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ok

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Here is a link to 4 Ruy Lopez games:

https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessplayer?pid=78728

 

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Daniel Lowinger is not an IM, actually he has no FIDE title.

And I guess nobody calls the line "Illundain variation" in honour of the Catalan GM David Garcia Illundain, who has sporadically employed the line (and who sadly passed away at a very young age).

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pfren wrote:

Daniel Lowinger is not an IM, actually he has no FIDE title.

And I guess nobody calls the line "Illundain variation" in honour of the Catalan GM David Garcia Illundain, who has sporadically employed the line (and who sadly passed away at a very young age).

 

This is actually a C&P of the wiki article

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pfren wrote:

And I guess nobody calls the line "Illundain variation" in honour of the Catalan GM David Garcia Illundain, who has sporadically employed the line (and who sadly passed away at a very young age).

 

Sure, nobody, I've taken it from nowhere. 🙄 Chessgames and other sources use this name. settings.pngPersonally, I'd prefer to call it Vinyoles variation. peshka.png

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or old mainline

(it was said to be the mainline before qa5)

also qa5 being the mainline