Modern Benoni or Grünfeld?

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blueemu
PathOfNerd wrote:
blueemu wrote:

I play Najdorf as Black.

Tried both Modern Benoni and Grunfeld. I finally settled on King's Indian Defense.

You don't play anything. All you're doing is trashtalking on the forum.

I feel that this judgement is a bit unsympathetic.

The proper word to describe MOST of my posts would get blocked by the swear-filter, but with a bit of circumlocution we can render it as "S-word"-posting.

That, yes. I do a lot of that. Trash-talking, no.

blueemu

I find that if you are genuinely helpful to people a good part of the time, the Mods will tend to cut you a bit of slack the rest of the time... as long as you are not actually breaking the rules.

Zephyr2385

How about we don't trash talk at all?

sadjed391

Hhhhh

Sea_TurtIe

ive studied a lot of the benko and benoni and have studied the grunfeld also

i can point out their differences

grunfeld

    • crucial to know 10+ moves of theory in many variations
    • must know all the details and plans depending on which of the many ways white sets up
    • ultra-hypermodern opening (you get little space to maneuver)
    • things can get cramped
    • white can go wrong easily
    • it feels good to punish whites bad play

gtg ill talk about benoni in 30 mins

fissionfowl
PathOfNerd wrote:

@blueemu

Well, not trashtalking but talking some trash.

Give examples. Hating on bluemu is rather strange. He mostly tells jokes and gives pretty good chess advice.

blueemu
PathOfNerd wrote:

@blueemu

...

You haven't played a single game here.

A Heroic Defense in the Sicilian Najdorf - Kids, don't try this at home! - Chess Forums - Chess.com

I direct your attention to the one-word comment in post #140, page 8.

The "Wow!" comment.

PursuitOfHappiness2 is Grandmaster Mishra, the youngest Grandmaster in the entire history of Chess (beating the records set by both Bobby Fischer and Karjakin).

He seems to be under the impression that not only do I play chess here on chess.com, but I also play it well enough to impress one of the chess world's hottest prodigies.

Perhaps you should set him straight?

Ilampozhil25
Ultimate-trashtalker wrote:
SamuelAjedrez95 wrote:

@fluffynnaj

Which is why it's still perfectly great to play because everyone will have equal 1600 level knowledge of the theory then. There are no "GM level openings". There are only openings which you enjoy playing at any level.

If u haven't mastered or have a good understanding of basic math,u shouldn't try to learn trigonometry and mess everything up gothamchessMO.... atleast play something u can understand.....Danya believes that 1600s have the understanding to start playing hypermodern stuff

people mess up equally in every opening explain how openings matter in how much people can mess up

there is a negative chance you actually came to this conclusion by yourself

also, how are hypermodern openings harder to understand? i dont play them but this seriously feels like sticking a certain playstyle into peoples brains

Ilampozhil25

#40 its page 7 but i digress (post number/20 and round up)

either way that game is famous now lol

Ilampozhil25

ok maybe i went a bit far (because of your unprompted switch of flags maybe) but still

openings with more theory arent harder to play, that isnt a strong factor

as samuel said, everyone will have roughly equal knowledge of theory, so the fact that there is a lot shouldnt matter

disprove this idea or explain you were never saying anything against it

Sea_TurtIe

back imma talk about benoni

benoni has

  • alot of theory
  • the taimanov variation (just a pain)
  • a bunch of setups white can go for
  • you gotta prefect Nh5-f5
  • its an opening where you win a spectacular game or lose a terrible one
  • very sharp
  • very imbalanced
  • should not be afraid to sacrifice

just play the benko

blueemu

I used to enjoy a good King's Indian, Panno variation.

I just got squeezed like a zit too many times in the Modern Benoni.

Sea_TurtIe

also the grünfeld can be quite drawish

compare 2 lines in each

menacing russian variation

taimanov benoni, its very easily for black to go wrong here and you will walk on a tightrope of theory for the next 10+ moves

chsnkl

Based on your repertoire, I would recommend the Grunfeld. Just like the Najdorf, it creates several weaknesses in exchange for aggressive play.

x-0986252049

Grunfield is better

blueemu
Ultimate-trashtalker wrote:

The Benoni is only good through the Nimzo move order or king's Indian move order

My favorite Panno variation of the King's Indian leads into a Benoni position by transposition, bypassing White's most aggressive possibilities such as the Taimanov.

Sea_TurtIe

i also have resulted to playing like this to avoid the taimanov

but the weakness is b5 is much harder, and playing e6 is not very good because they can capture d5 with the e pawn and allow much less counterplay

you can also get it out of a pirc

its better than the d6 benoni and black gets a bit more due to there not being a c4 pawn there, but its not very common

you can also avoid it by playing a kid

blueemu
PathOfNerd wrote:
OostBill wrote:

Grunfield is better

Said a 900-rated Grunfeld expert

You haven't responded to my Post #40.

Sea_TurtIe

lock 2 GMS in a room for 10 hours with a chessboard and see what happens

blueemu
PathOfNerd wrote:
blueemu wrote:
PathOfNerd wrote:
OostBill wrote:

Grunfield is better

Said a 900-rated Grunfeld expert

You haven't responded to my Post #40.

Cmon! Daily chess isn't real chess. There plenty of things you can use in daily games which would be considered cheating in real chess.

Even a 600 player can play like a GM using opening theory and games played by other GMs. And it's NOT forbidden in daily chess.

Thus... try to fool someone else.

Grandmaster Mishra seems to disagree with your analysis.