I played the Modern Benoni for years and I play 1. d4. I'm in a good position to state objectively that the Grunfeld is definitely better.
Modern Benoni or Grünfeld?
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fluffynnaj wrote:
Zephyr2385 wrote:
For a bit of context, I play the Najdorf as Black, and the Ruy Lopez as White. What would better fit my openings as of now? I've tried many other openings against d4 but they didn't seem to fit. Both of these are the only ones that I seem to understand the common ideas in.
The kings Indian Trust me. I know you're going to say you've tried it but follow this principle: When you finish fianchetto and castle deploy a card kann set up and immediately attack the center pawns I recommend using the c pawn so it turns into a sicilianish set up which I personally like
That becomes a Benoni. White will always play d5 after ...c5 unless there's a tactical reason not to do so. The method you propose is too slow and gives white lots of options.
May 25, 2023
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I played the Grunfeld for years and I play 1. d4. I'm in a good position to state objectively that the Grunfeld is definitely better.
(I flirted with the Benoni as black for a while, so do have some experience of that too.)
PathOfNerd wrote:
Ethan_Brollier wrote:
PathOfNerd wrote:
blueemu wrote:
PathOfNerd wrote:
blueemu wrote:
PathOfNerd wrote:
OostBill wrote:
Grunfield is better
Said a 900-rated Grunfeld expert
You haven't responded to my Post #40.
Cmon! Daily chess isn't real chess. There plenty of things you can use in daily games which would be considered cheating in real chess.
Even a 600 player can play like a GM using opening theory and games played by other GMs. And it's NOT forbidden in daily chess.
Thus... try to fool someone else.
Grandmaster Mishra seems to disagree with your analysis.
Grandmaster Mishra plays real chess unlike you.
It's highly likely that you can't even handle 2000 level online in real chess.
And it’s highly likely you can’t handle 2300 level in real daily chess, so what about it. He’s probably more likely to be higher rated in classical than you due to the time control he plays. IMO daily chess is more “real” chess than blitz and any rapid below 20|0, because you don’t have the time to calculate and make the highest quality moves.
You don't even know what are you talking about, kid!
Hmm… interesting. No counterpoint? Just a pointed comment about your assumption of my age? Okay, I can work with that. Can you refute the fact that @blueemu plays higher quality chess than you, both in and out of theory, or are we sticking with this nonsense that daily chess isn’t real chess despite the existence of the ICCF and other similar chess leagues?
May 25, 2023
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#46
it depends on your play style
In the Benoni you go for imbalances as soon as move 2, if you play this you should be able to calculate very well and not be afraid to sacrifice. its crucial that you know the theory to the most challenging lines in the Benoni for if you do not you will crumble. do not forget you play the Benoni to fight for a win
In the Grünfeld you give away your entire center to white and you will pick at it with c5 and other moves, you give the center to white, claiming that you will be able to pick it away and win the game. however, there is a major amount of theory in the grünfeld and you must know what you are doing in every variation. Also, there is a higher chance of drawing then in the benoni
PathOfNerd wrote:
@Ethan_Brollier
Well, I'll give you one answer. It'll be the first and the last one for you.
++Anything to stop your libel I suppose.
To begin with I want to notice why I assumed that you're a kid. Because you're... not very smart. Even though some kids are smart but you're not that type of kid.
++Hmmm… okay. You may assume incorrectly that I’m not very smart. And what would that have to do with me being a kid?
You want counterpoint? Okay! Who the hell told you that I only play blitz online? Who the hell told you that I don't play classical OTB chess?
++Oh I’m aware you play classical OTB chess, I’d just still put odds on blueemu taking a match off you.
@blueemu plays higher quality chess than me? LOL! He doesn't even play chess at all! Because on chess.com in daily games you can (from any form of real chess point of view) officially cheat. You can use opening preparation, other games in similar line played by other GMs, endgame theory if you need it, anything you want except engine help. If your visualization skill is about zero you can use analysis board etc. Any of those things would be considered as cheating in real chess. I'm NOT talking about blitz chess. Let's say we'll take OTB classical time control 90+30. That's why daily isn't real.
++ Isn’t daily just a fancy word for correspondence chess? Correspondence chess is real chess. Again, take the ICCF or any similar league. You can ignore their existence but that doesn’t make you correct.
May 25, 2023
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Ethan_Brollier yazdı:
PathOfNerd wrote:
@Ethan_Brollier
Well, I'll give you one answer. It'll be the first and the last one for you.
++Anything to stop your libel I suppose.
To begin with I want to notice why I assumed that you're a kid. Because you're... not very smart. Even though some kids are smart but you're not that type of kid.
++Hmmm… okay. You may assume incorrectly that I’m not very smart. And what would that have to do with me being a kid?
You want counterpoint? Okay! Who the hell told you that I only play blitz online? Who the hell told you that I don't play classical OTB chess?
++Oh I’m aware you play classical OTB chess, I’d just still put odds on blueemu taking a match off you.
@blueemu plays higher quality chess than me? LOL! He doesn't even play chess at all! Because on chess.com in daily games you can (from any form of real chess point of view) officially cheat. You can use opening preparation, other games in similar line played by other GMs, endgame theory if you need it, anything you want except engine help. If your visualization skill is about zero you can use analysis board etc. Any of those things would be considered as cheating in real chess. I'm NOT talking about blitz chess. Let's say we'll take OTB classical time control 90+30. That's why daily isn't real.
++ Isn’t daily just a fancy word for correspondence chess? Correspondence chess is real chess. Again, take the ICCF or any similar league. You can ignore their existence but that doesn’t make you correct.
Sure it is real chess but we are far away from human Correspondence days now, so this point seems a little shaky to me. Is there a single person in ICCF who doesn't use tablebases and opening books and engines? Highly unlikely.
I think the KID would be better for you than the Grunfeld or Benoni i'm a Jobava London player and I often find the Benoni and Grunfeld the easiest to destroy.
I've done a vid on beating the Grunfeld so it might be interesting for you if you do deceide this opening.
May 26, 2023
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#50
pathofnerd: "oH yOu cAnT pLaY rEaL cHeSs!!!"
to someone who (from what ive gathered) is 70, nearly blind (so obviously isnt at their best skills now), drew tal in an otb game (it was an exhibition and then became a clocks game), shows respectable knowledge of the game, and recieved praise from gm mishra about their game (in sep 2020, before he became a gm)
please stop, as blueemu has already said "i dont need to show a performance to these random people online"
and to ethan broiler, small doubt, by "faster than 20|0" what sort of increment game falls into that
e.g. 15|10 or something
Grunfield is better
Said a 900-rated Grunfeld expert
You haven't responded to my Post #40.
Cmon! Daily chess isn't real chess. There plenty of things you can use in daily games which would be considered cheating in real chess.
Even a 600 player can play like a GM using opening theory and games played by other GMs. And it's NOT forbidden in daily chess.
Thus... try to fool someone else.
Grandmaster Mishra seems to disagree with your analysis.
Grandmaster Mishra plays real chess unlike you.
It's highly likely that you can't even handle 2000 level online in real chess.
And it’s highly likely you can’t handle 2300 level in real daily chess, so what about it. He’s probably more likely to be higher rated in classical than you due to the time control he plays. IMO daily chess is more “real” chess than blitz and any rapid below 20|0, because you don’t have the time to calculate and make the highest quality moves.