Most agressive way to play against Petroff?

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sacrificialmaster

Hi all,

Does anyone have any idea of as to how to play the most agressively against the petroff defense? How does one go about attacking when your opponent plays this against you? Your responses can be based off of the diagram below or after Nxe5, for example.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks

JohnIowa

Or 3.Nxe5 d6 4.Nxf7, the Cochrane Gambit, which is viable right up to Super GM level.

backyardstar

Cochrane gambit all the way. After 3. Nxe5, 3. d6 which is pretty commonly played just say goodbye to the knight and sac it on f7. It's fun and not as stupid as it sounds.

 

Edit: gah guy above me beat me to it. But yea, definitely the aggressive way to go against the Petroff.

bresando

+1 to the line given by reasonabledoubt, bith aggressive and theoretically challenging. But i'm also a big shocked by his definition of the Cochrane.

An opening against which a super-GM has drawn in recent years is forever to be considered not "ridicolous", even if later a refutation is discovered (and as far as i know this is not the case). Last time i looked the teorethical evaluation was something like "W has enough compensation to hold a draw but no more".

Wou_Rem

The Cochrane gambit is a very nice opening for white if he prepares it wel. Usually black players aren't prepared for it and it is very hard for black to see which moves are best to play. One wrong move in the first few moves and white has more then enough compensation.

moemen13

As a faithful Petroff fan, I can say that Cochrane Gambit is the most aggressive reply; however if black is well prepared, white's best hope will be a draw, still it is a fun and an adventure.But for the most line, which sounds theoritical , it is:

( I have escaped some small variations within, and showing the most playable one)

 

Conquistador

I like playing the old main line Russian Game.  If Lasker says it is good, then I stand with him!

OKP13

Don't play e4.

Conquistador

That is the same argument for beating the Ruy Lopez.  Play the sicilian. 

You know the sky is blue because the grass is green.

metallictaste

Nc3 after Nxe4 and cochrane gambit are both good.

I play Nc3 in OTB tournaments, and cochrane online

opticRED
metallictaste wrote:

Nc3 after Nxe4 and cochrane gambit are both good.

I play Nc3 in OTB tournaments, and cochrane online


I agree with you. I play the Petroff defense as black and these 2 variations are my main  sources of headache when playing it

oinquarki

2. f4

Conquistador

1.g4

oinquarki

0. Nc5

Conquistador

2.fxh1=B

oinquarki

-3. Bxy94=f#

(I win.)

Wou_Rem
Gonnosuke wrote:
ReasonableDoubt wrote:

The Cochrane gambit is flat out ridiculous.


The Cochrane Gambit only looks ridiculous. White moves the same piece 3 times in a row only to have it leave the board with nothing to show for it other than a slightly exposed king.  By all rights, it should be a losing move. But it isn't! That's what's so great about the Cochrane Gambit.

It's a positional sacrifice that abides by none of the "gambit rules" that normally apply when white gambits material in the opening -- he gets no development advantage and no immediate attacking prospects if black plays sensibly. In fact, there's no tangible compensation other than a slightly uncomfortable black king and the prospect of a imposing central pawn wall at some point in the future. The Cochrane is a very unusual gambit that shouldn't work but somehow does. It's really quite amazing.

The fact that the Cochrane Gambit doesn't lose by force speaks directly to the beauty and wonder of chess.


I would like to add something to this.

Indeed on the first eye it looks like white only gains 2 pawns and a few tempo, but this is not the case at all.
Black is having difficulty placing his pieces, everything is in the way. Especially his white bishop has virtually no good squares.

There are ofcourse many many variations and it's a bit too massive to go into great detail here. I had a great site on this gambit, but I've seem to have lost it. It was a site that coverd nearly all the lines there were, if anyone has this site feel free to send it! It was a really dull and archaic looking site but it had great material on it.

sacrificialmaster

The cochrane gambit isn't bad, but white needs to play actively or he will simply be a piece down.