Moving the queen to early can be bad

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Frankdawg

Generally it is a bad idea to move your queen out into the open to early on in the game. It is to much of a liability, beginners might learn something from this short game.

DrawMaster

Nicely done.

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I played this game on Yahoo chess 10 or so years back. He resigned after a brief analysis Laughing

hrb264

Lol yes its one of the worst mistakes (or can be) and i often make the most of it, i don't always know how to exploit it though, especially if their first queen move is Qf3 in the opening ...

Wou_Rem

Your incorrect unfortunately.

12.Qf5, not the only move. Qh6 is more accurate. Looks pretty equal. White doesn't has anything.

And after g4 the resignign is just ludicrious.
Bh4 saves the queen easily. All along you were slightly better, and I stress slightly.

After 13.g4 Bh4! you are struggling to even get a draw out of it. Black has a huge advantage.

So the lesson to be learned is:
When you think you are losing a piece, look again and see if your opponent isn't being too ambitious.

Skwerly

yup, get the MINOR pieces out first unless there is GOOD reason to start shuffling the lady.  nice trapping maneuver.  :)

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Wouter_Remmerswaal wrote:

Your incorrect unfortunately.

12.Qf5, not the only move. Qh6 is more accurate. Looks pretty equal. White doesn't has anything.

And after g4 the resignign is just ludicrious.
Bh4 saves the queen easily. All along you were slightly better, and I stress slightly.

After 13.g4 Bh4! you are struggling to even get a draw out of it. Black has a huge advantage.

So the lesson to be learned is:
When you think you are losing a piece, look again and see if your opponent isn't being too ambitious.


good point, although it gets complicated, it seems that Black keeps the queen but gives White a slight positional advantage.

13. Bd3 looks much better

thechessteacher

I agree that Black has an advantage in the final position after Bh4+.

Instead, 13.Bd3 looks close to winning as pointed out above.

9...d5 was a blunder that White should take advantage of with 10.cxd5 exd5 11.Nxd5 Qe6 12.Rc1! anticipating the tactic 12...Rxd5 13.exd5 Qxe3 and meeting it with 14.dxc6 now that the pawn is protected, the bishop has to retreat to a8 and White stands much better.

Wou_Rem
zrylam wrote:
Wouter_Remmerswaal wrote:

Your incorrect unfortunately.

12.Qf5, not the only move. Qh6 is more accurate. Looks pretty equal. White doesn't has anything.

And after g4 the resignign is just ludicrious.
Bh4 saves the queen easily. All along you were slightly better, and I stress slightly.

After 13.g4 Bh4! you are struggling to even get a draw out of it. Black has a huge advantage.

So the lesson to be learned is:
When you think you are losing a piece, look again and see if your opponent isn't being too ambitious.


good point, although it gets complicated, it seems that Black keeps the queen but gives White a slight positional advantage.

13. Bd3 looks much better


Yup after 13.Bd3 white is better, hardly queen winning or shattering victory though.

thechessteacher

I disagree that White was only slightly better. 9.cxd5 and 13.Bd3 are both sufficient for a winning position (at expert level) although at lower levels it is still quite possible and likely to blunder the game away.

Wou_Rem
thechessteacher wrote:

I disagree that White was only slightly better. 9.cxd5 and 13.Bd3 are both sufficient for a winning position (at expert level) although at lower levels it is still quite possible and likely to blunder the game away.


Jup, those two give a huge advantage for white. Never said it wasn't. Just that isn't the instant win the topic poster intented.

thechessteacher

Here is an example of taking advantage of early queen deployment: