my solution to modern, pirc, hippo and that stuff

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tigergutt

i always had horrible results against those openings despite studying alot of theory and ive always been frustrated about those.  more recently i have been good with studying tactics every day and suddenly my stats against exactly those openings have turned upside down. its is my understanding now that the problem with using those openings as black is that despite your position is ok, if you do a single mistake you are blown off the board because of whites activity. just wanted to share it in case someone else goes around hating to face those openings. some people even play them as both white and black

Hypocrism

I don't think you actually posted your solution.

 

There's no real solution to any of these openings. Pirc and modern are completely sound. Hippo was played by Spassky against Petrosian to great effect.

tigergutt
Hypocrism wrote:

I don't think you actually posted your solution.

 

There's no real solution to any of these openings. Pirc and modern are completely sound. Hippo was played by Spassky against Petrosian to great effect.


im quite baffled that this is a response to my post since i wrote that black have ok position in those openings:)  im just saying that despite black beeing theoretically fine if you do a mistake when white have that much space and activity you often lose right away and mistakes happens all the time at our level. my solution is practice tactics tactics tactics. it worked very well for me. for others maybe the problem is somewhere else

tigergutt
tigergutt wrote:
Hypocrism wrote:

I don't think you actually posted your solution.

 

There's no real solution to any of these openings. Pirc and modern are completely sound. Hippo was played by Spassky against Petrosian to great effect.


im quite baffled that this is a response to my post since i wrote that black have ok position in those openings:)  im just saying that despite black beeing theoretically fine if you do a mistake when white have that much space and activity you often lose right away and mistakes happens all the time at our level. my solution is practice tactics tactics tactics. it worked very well for me. for others maybe the problem is somewhere else


rereading my last post i see i may have been a little strick. i appriciate the answer i got and if you thought i meant to REFUTE those openings with tactics alone i understand your point. im just telling people how i solved my biggest problem in chess:)

WanderingPuppet

i simply play austrian attack with d4-e4-f4 against all these systems, which is achievable most of the time, and play for e5, black goes for a c5 break and i usually play dc although maybe after e5 first.  its worked very successfully at club level for me so far though i must admit it helps that I employ these systems as Black on occasion.  Then after some games, its easier to see when Black has problems.

opticRED

aside from tactics, you need to have a lot of patience, especially in the modern defence

Blurft
Hypocrism wrote:

I don't think you actually posted your solution.

 

There's no real solution to any of these openings. Pirc and modern are completely sound. Hippo was played by Spassky against Petrosian to great effect.


There's a difference to there being no "theoretical solution" to these openings, and (as the OP suggests) there being a very good, very successful "practical solution" to them.

The practical solution revolves around the fact that while hippo-style positions are perfectly sound, they're all but impossible to play accurately as black unless you're either a GM or letting silicon make your decisions.

As white, ram pawns forward, or sacrifice a piece for a pawn or two to open lines, and the resulting hyper-tactical positions will be a piece of cake for you to pursue, and all but impossible for black to refute.

Aggression is the answer, unless your opponent is Ivanchuk or someone.  In my experience, both my own games and those I've followed, a hyper-aggressive strategy by white against the hippo scores in the neighborhood of 90% for white, irrespective of rating.

tigergutt

hello Petrosianic! how is your sicilian going? i have actually had ok results against those systems(do they have a group name?) by shamelessy playing  about the same moves i do in the english attack in the sicilian. but its probably not sound so i guess i should probably learn the austrian attack. it looks both effective and fun. for now i have enough with the kings gambit as i had som humiliating losses there recently.

do you often face people playing those systems as their white opening and if you do what do you play there? austrian reversed? i face that strangely often. actually about 50% of my games is against this stuff