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KennethGee50
Compadre_J wrote:

The OP made a mistake in his notation.

The Knight is on g5 which is notated as Ng5

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Also, The Position the OP is showing is called the Italian Game: Knights Attack Variation.

It’s not considered the Fried Liver Attack.

The Fried Liver Attack is the below position:

The above position is considered good for White

Black 5th move in the above position is considered to be an error.

So White position is good because Black made an error.

With Best play, White will never reach the Fried Liver because Black will play other moves.

Black best 5th moves are the ones I showed above.

All of the above moves I showed avoids the Fried Liver Attack and are completely different positions.

Compadre_J

KennethGee, The starting position of the Fried Liver Attack is very specific.

The above position is the Fried Liver Attack.

No other position is the Fried Liver Attack.

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The below position is called the Knights Attack Variation which could transpose into the Fried Liver OR…

It can transpose into something else such as the below position.

The above position is known as the Lolli Attack.

It’s different position vs. the Fried Liver.

Also, White may never reach the Fried Liver or Lolli Attack if Black plays different moves.

The above position is known as Ulvestad Variation.

DrSpudnik
sawdof wrote:
magipi wrote:

This is your contribution 12 years later? Seriously?

Things don't always improve after 12 years. Why so serious?

Cheese, wine and whiskey improve with age. Beer, cake and milk not so much.

DrSpudnik
888STARZ wrote:


Interesting discussion! Nf5 often pops up in aggressive lines. Exploring its use in the Italian Game and related tactics could uncover some creative possibilities. Thanks for sharing!

And how do you suggest to get a knight to f5? What square is it coming from? g3? e7?

KennethGee50

Well that is what i was looking to see if there were already openings for that. If i have to make my own i would think g3 but then that is hard because the way to get there takes two turns as a trip through h4 is necessary and that breaks opening principles of not moving the same piece twice until all pieces are developed.