Nf6 or d5?

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If you wanted to play an unrated game (so that neither of us would gain or lose any rating points) where we could comment back and forth, send me a game request.

I only play online games, at three days per move or more, though. I'm an old geezer, and I'm back in college (at 57 years old!) taking a heavy IT course... so I can typically only move once every day or two.

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haha i see...what is your otb btw mr Scott?

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The only serious answer is 1...e5, for sure :-)

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14MJFOWLER68 wrote:

haha i see...what is your otb btw mr Scott?

Unrated.

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Scottrf wrote:
14MJFOWLER68 wrote:

haha i see...what is your otb btw mr Scott?

Unrated.

which means you have never played an otb tournament???how did you get that online rating with no otb experience?

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14MJFOWLER68 wrote:
Scottrf wrote:
14MJFOWLER68 wrote:

haha i see...what is your otb btw mr Scott?

Unrated.

which means you have never played an otb tournament???how did you get that online rating with no otb experience?

Online experience? I don't really see why people think you need physical pieces to improve at a mind game to be honest. Also, a large extent of these games is the effort you put in.

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Dark_Falcon wrote:

The only serious answer is 1...e5, for sure :-)

Why would that be?haha

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14MJFOWLER68 wrote:

haha ive heard that before...which brings up the next question...how to learn to apply what you learn in books...blitz?

Depends on the book. I "grew up" in chess with Pachman's series that are aimed to be immediately applicable, basic opening/middlegame planning. On the other hand, I read Euwe's Chess amateur becomes a master at ~1600 and it went well over my head, but the ideas that are in it kept maturating for the last five years or so. Similar examples must exist in other authors.

Oh, and blueemu's #48 is really a great opportunity, I would not turn it down.

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i play all the online unrated games i can against you stronger players...I feel Iwill learn the most from from you guys...all of you have been where I am now and know how to progress further...thanx for all the help so far

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One of my OTB games went like this:

I answered 1.Nf3 with 1... Nf6, because if he played 2.c4 (english) I would have played e6, d5 and c5, but if he had played 2.g3, I would have preferred to make d5 and c6 (to have pawns opposed to his future bishop on g2).

So the specific move order could matter, but doesn´t define anything yet, is better to know what do you want to achieve some moves later.

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Tongue Out

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blueemu wrote:

1. ... d5 is solid and tries to meet White's opening head-on. Because it is a symmetrical line, it limits White to a small advantage; but makes it very likely that he will get that small advantage.

1. ... Nf6 is assymetrical and unbalancing, and offers both White and Black more play, and more chances to go wrong. Bigger risk, but bigger potential reward.

I prefer unbalanced positions, especially as Black.

Good point. And actually quite comprehensible to us lesser chess talents.

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Nf6!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I'm answering the 2nd part of the OP's question.

I always play Nf6. The reason is that when I played d5 I almost always lost; moving on to Nf6 (with Bg7) things went a little better - just a little, so I became attached to Nf6 for a purely psychological motivation. Now I continue to play 1....,Nf6, but without fianchetto.