novelty C45 Scottish Mieses variation?

I was studying a variation of the Scottish that someone tried at the chess club in a blitz game. I was kinda lost after 9 ... Qh4 in that game.

The position occurs after:

The most games I found in this database seem to lose almost by force.

So 14 ... Nc3 is losing. What else can black do?

I had a whole lot move variations in there, however msot  of it was lost after I promoted a variation.

Any thoughts of players coming across this position now and then?

If I remember right, I think there's a Shankland video lesson where he presents a game from his youth where he faced this 9...Qh4 line. You may want to check that out (if indeed such a video exists )

Yup found it : http://www.chess.com/video/player/my-memorable-games-2007-world-youth

Thanks, I was already looking for such a vid in the openings folder, however I couldn't find one. Will check it out!

After 14... f6 15.Bb2 seems to be strong. 15... 0-0 16.e6 Rae8 17.Kc2

Emms gives 14... f5!? and the game http://www.365chess.com/game.php?gid=190662 ,but houdini plays 17.Bb2 +-

I think 10... Nf4 is playable for Black, e. g. 11. Qe4 Ng6 12.Qe3 Be7; but White can play 9.g3, which should transpose, and then there is no Qh4.

9...Qh4 is just a waste of precious time, since 10.a3 is working.

After 15 Bb2, then 15 ... fxe5 is recommended. It will lead to the same position as 15 Kc5 fxe5 16 Bb2 in the diagram. After 15 ... 0-0, white can still play 16 ... e6 and has a great advantage.

So far I didn't find any lines that were immediately winning for white. Of course white has an advantage, but at my level, if you are not prepared as white, then black also has great chances.

I was just pointing out that the most popular move 14 ... Nc3 is immediately losing and 14 ... f6 is a big approvement.

Still, I see no reason to launch such a wreckless move, when Black has a pleasant choice between 9...0-0-0, 9...g6 and 9...g5!?- the latter being employed initially by Anand against Kasparov, and still holding its own perfectly well- even at top level correspondence chess.

I have used all three of these moves in practice, and so far my only loss was against Kitty Grosar at an open tournament, some 15 years ago (just a few months after the Kasparov- Anand game)... but it had nothing to do with the opening- Black had a superior ending, which he handled very poorly, and lost quite easily.

Well, I think we both agree then that Qh4 is not the best move for black. However at the chess club somebody surprised me with that move in a blitz game and I wanted to point out the possible responses for white.

I will soon check out the other lines, the main lines, as well.