My blog defines all of the analysis, but you can just go ahead and castle there. After Nge2, play exd5. Where do you go from there? I'll answer your next few moves.
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ChessisGood wrote:
What do you mean "Nc3 is recommended by computer analysis"? I don't see any spots where that would appear to be the best move, so I can only assume you meant the 9...Nc6 seen in the Ruy Lopez variation. If you were referring to the 7th move options, my computer only wavers between 7. Nxe5 and 7. c3.
Again, you do not specify which variation is dubious. If it is my suggested Qc5, then you are utterly wrong. That variation gives White a strong advantage. If you are referring to the move 7. Nxe5 in the Ruy, then I will again argue that it is not dubious. It is hard for White to pull for an advantage, but it is hardly a mistake. An inaccuracy would be more adequate, assuming White wants a winning position. If, however, you are referring to one of my two openings mentioned in my blog, you need to explain yourself, and support it with serious analysis, as I cannot see any dubiousness in either opening.
Please remember to specify what you are talking about. Thanks for understanding, but your comments make no since when not specifically linked to an opening.
EDIT: Now I see your next post, which makes me think this was all about your Ruy Lopez variation. As I already stated, I think you will have a hard time playing against 10. Qc5.
10.Qc5 is not any stronger.
9...d6:
9...Nc6:
Dead even.
@Yereslov: Actually, there is a big difference in those two positions. In the first, 14. e6 is not dangerous in view of 14...Nxb3! 15. exf7 Kxf7 16. Qxb3+ d5, where Black is doing fine. In the latter, your analysis at the end is totally wrong. Black cannot castle, thus trapping in his Rook on h8. In addition, he has a backward pawn which is likely to fall. You can hardly call it "dead even."
jempty_method wrote:
When I get back to my computer with my engine I'm going to be looking into this potentially new way to counter Bird's Defense to the Ruy Lopez.
I don't like your 5.e5. I feel it is too comittal, and perhaps Black can get away with 5...h5!?
- 6.d3? c6 .: Qa5+ wins material.
- 6.c3 c6 And Black plays a different d pawn move depending on White's retreat (7.Be2 d6; 7.Bc4 d5; 7.Ba4 d3!)
- 6.Qe2 c6 7.Bc4 Qe7 with the idea of ..d6 or ..d5.
- 6.O-O c6 7.Bc4 d5 8.exd6 Bxd6 9.Re1+ Kf8 with a coffeehouse position typical of this opening.
- 6.O-O c6 7.Ba4 d5 (8.c3? d3! 9.Qf3 Qh4) 8.d3 Ne7 where White's light squared bishop has no influence.
The moral is that White cannot do without castling for very long. 5.O-O is best.
ChessisGood wrote:
@Yereslov: Actually, there is a big difference in those two positions. In the first, 14. e6 is not dangerous in view of 14...Nxb3! 15. exf7 Kxf7 16. Qxb3+ d5, where Black is doing fine. In the latter, your analysis at the end is totally wrong. Black cannot castle, thus trapping in his Rook on h8. In addition, he has a backward pawn which is likely to fall. You can hardly call it "dead even."
Sorry, pal. This was not my analysis.
This was computer analysis where I tried different lines and let it run for a while.
The position is perfectly safe.
If you can find a refutation, good luck.
Edit: The rook is not stuck. It gets out eventually with no trouble.
Human error makes a lot of mistakes.
ChessisGood wrote:
My blog defines all of the analysis, but you can just go ahead and castle there. After Nge2, play exd5. Where do you go from there? I'll answer your next few moves.
Well, when you play exd I will also play exd. Against nearly any move I will O-O next and I want to play f4. The purpose of my N on e2 is to prevent the doubled c pawns. I think this must be the critical test of the forward snake.
Both of your novelties seems unjustified.
There seems to be no point behind it.
How in the world is Nd7 a good move?
It's about as good as this:
Your bishop won't be moving to e5. Maybe an amauter will fall for this, but not a strong player.
Metaknight251 wrote:
The bishop goes to e5?
Yes, according to ChessisGood.
@Yereslov: I have already told you how both moves are strong. You seem to go by the computer analysis more than you should, so listen to this. Both moves are the top option suggested by my computer. However, I found the moves based on logic, not computer analyses. As for your opening, the position resulting after 13. Kf8 is horrendous for Black, and Stockfish gives White a 1.45 advantage.
If you have yet to read my entire blog, please do so, as it includes all of the information necessary to understand both openings. On a final note, your analyses are not in the spirit of good analysis. You need to consider all moves, not just what the computer puts out ten or fifteen moves later.
@GreenCastleBlock: Sorry, got a little mixed up. I'll work on this when I get back from my vacation. 7...d6 looks good too, though.
@jempty_method: I think that gives Black the advantage after 6...c6 and 7...d6.
ChessisGood wrote:
@Yereslov: I have already told you how both moves are strong. You seem to go by the computer analysis more than you should, so listen to this. Both moves are the top option suggested by my computer. However, I found the moves based on logic, not computer analyses. As for your opening, the position resulting after 13. Kf8 is horrendous for Black, and Stockfish gives White a 1.45 advantage.
If you have yet to read my entire blog, please do so, as it includes all of the information necessary to understand both openings. On a final note, your analyses are not in the spirit of good analysis. You need to consider all moves, not just what the computer puts out ten or fifteen moves later.
Most of the users who have replied agree.
The openings offer no benefit.
ChessisGood wrote:
@Yereslov: I have already told you how both moves are strong. You seem to go by the computer analysis more than you should, so listen to this. Both moves are the top option suggested by my computer. However, I found the moves based on logic, not computer analyses. As for your opening, the position resulting after 13. Kf8 is horrendous for Black, and Stockfish gives White a 1.45 advantage.
If you have yet to read my entire blog, please do so, as it includes all of the information necessary to understand both openings. On a final note, your analyses are not in the spirit of good analysis. You need to consider all moves, not just what the computer puts out ten or fifteen moves later.
Stockfish is a really terrible engine.
In a match against Rybka or Fritz it always gets thrashed.
I don't know about novelties, but I do play uncommon lines.
LazyChessPlayer3201 wrote:
I don't know about novelties, but I do play uncommon lines.
That's actually a somewhat common line.
@Yereslov
I do not think the position is equal.Even though Qe3 seems not to be the best move as it blocks the bishop on c1. Actually the whole move order is a little doubtfull ;)
- White has the bishop pair and the position is not closed
- There are no good outposts for the black knights
Whites play is also a lot more pleasant here. With posibilities to play on queenside and/or kingside.
@metaknight. THen again 9. .. Bf6 is much better than Ne5 and actually leads to a better game for black. But still a nice game to play :)
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On another point, your Accelerated Snake line has a few problems. First, the idea behind this move is to avoid trading too early. As I mentioned in my blog, I suggest an immediate 5...Be5. Trading may occur later if and only if White does not play g3 at some point.
The immediate 5...Be5 is intriguing. I wouldn't have thought you were going to continue the "forward snake" without exchanging pawns first. You'd think that White would have some way of punishing this, but I don't see anything. I was particularly looking for some opportunity to play g4 since the Bc8 is not in the picture yet. That is the anti-snake recipe given in Dangerous Weapons in the Benoni/Benko by Emms/Palliser/Ward/Jones.
What do you play after 6.Bd3 with the idea of Nge2 and f4?