Openings against e4 that are Open (except e5)

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It is one thing to question something.  But there is such a thing as over questioning, as the sponge clown has done here.  I responded with the answer that you know it or you don't when it comes to openings.  Then he questions how long it took me and where is one at the half way point.  I answer, and it is not the answer he wants to hear (he did not like the fact that I said you may know a variation or two by that point, but then you know the variations and not the opening.  This is where he just tries to reword the same questions to get me to budge and I will not budge.  At that point it is his problem, not mine.  This is not a court room and I am under no obligation to answer the same question worded 52 different ways.  And no, "I did not have sex with that woman" (Bill Clinton, answering the same question over and over again, 52 times, about Monica Lewinsky)

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kindaspongey wrote:
"Some questioning is only mental. Some questioning is both mental and manifested outside the mind as with a posted question." - kindaspongey
Nwap111 wrote:

... even questioning manifested as a posted question is mental by definition. ...

Don't see a contradiction.

He sees no contradiction because he redacted the quote to make it look like no contradiction.

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ThrillerFan wrote:
kindaspongey wrote:
"Some questioning is only mental. Some questioning is both mental and manifested outside the mind as with a posted question." - kindaspongey
Nwap111 wrote:

... even questioning manifested as a posted question is mental by definition. ...

Don't see a contradiction.

... he redacted the quote to make it look like no contradiction.

False.

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ThrillerFan wrote (~5 hours ago):

...  I responded ... Then he questions ...  I answer, ... he just tries ...

Some of what actually happened:

"Is understanding [an opening] a yes-or-no thing or a matter of degree? ..." - kindaspongey (~3 days ago)

"It really is a yes or no thing. You know it or you don't. There are not varying degrees. ..." - ThrillerFan (~3 days ago)

"... I understand the French as well as any GM the plays the French does, but understanding and execution are not the same thing. ..." - ThrillerFan (~2 days ago)

"I have played it for 20+ years, but probably only truly understood it for maybe the last 5 to 10. ... 10 years of doing it wrong and then another couple of years to fix the problem. …" - ThrillerFan (~2 day ago)

"... So what was the state of things after just one year of fixing? Would you say that your understanding was the same as that of any GM who played the French? Would you say that your understanding was the same as that of a beginner? ..." - kindaspongey (~2 day ago)

"… It is possible to fully understand a variation without fully understanding the entire opening. ..." - ThrillerFan (~1 day ago)

"In that case, would one say that the opening-understanding is that of a beginner?" - kindaspongey (~16 hours ago)

"… As Black, you need a full understanding of the defense of your choice. You cannot half-a$$ it. ..." - ThrillerFan (~13 hours ago)

"[Does 'half-a$$' refer] to something that would be between GM-understanding and beginner-understanding?" - kindaspongey (~13 hours ago)

"... Take a 1000 piece jigsaw puzzle or Lego set. What do you have when 500 pieces are put together? You have an incomplete product! Are you going to glue the 500 jigsaw pieces together and hang it up on the wall with 500 pieces missing? Again, you know it or you don't. There is no half-a$$ing it. ..." - ThrillerFan (~13 hours ago)

"A jigsaw puzzle can be partially finished. Instead of claiming the non-existence of 'half-a$$ing', are you now expressing disapproval of it? For many, GM-level understanding is a long way off (if it is ever likely to come at all). Using an opening with gradually improving understanding seems to me to be generally recognized as appropriate behavior. Perhaps the sort of thing that you yourself did with the French for a couple years? ..." - kindaspongey (~12 hours ago)

"... How much is a Mona Lisa painting worth? $2000? (Hypothetically). If I paint you half a Mona Lisa, you giving me $1000 for that? ..." - ThrillerFan (~12 hours ago)

"Are you trying to indicate that a player can't benefit from less-than-GM understanding of an opening? Did you benefit from your first year of work on French-fixing?" - kindaspongey (~12 hours ago)

"... I will not budge. ..." - ThrillerFan (~5 hours ago)

"... You don't have to answer. ..." - Laura Branigan (1982)

A visit from kindaspongey about eight months in the future: Hello, people of the past! I thought that I would come back to show you part of a future ThrillerFan post:

"... Even I, an expert, have different levels of mastery against each response.  If a 5 signifies a typical Expert level understanding, 10 is master level, and 1 is 1400 level, I would put myself at the following against each response:

1...e6 - 10

1...c5 - 6

1...c6 - 6

1...d6 - 5

1...g6 - 4

1...d5 - 4

1...Nf6 - 4

1...e5 - 3"

If you want to see it for yourselves, just wait until a little after the middle of March, 2020 and go to

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/i-want-to-learn-the-ruy-lopez?page=3 .

Now, if you will excuse me, I have to get back to the future. By the way, while you are waiting, you might want to stock up on toilet paper. Don't ask!

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I think that HolyCrusader5 was looking for an answer to 1 e4.

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kindaspongey escribió:

I think that HolyCrusader5 was looking for an answer to 1 e4.

No s*** Sherlock.

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Guys, I just want to know. I have a tournament this evening, and yesterday I won all my games with black (mainly because they both played d4, where I know what I am playing), but I lost my only game with white in 15 moves against the Pirc. Can I know what to do against the Pirc, French, and Caro-Kann that need the least amount of theory? Thankfully, I won that quad with first. 

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Possibly helpful (but probably not by this evening):

My First Chess Opening Repertoire for White
https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/9033.pdf
https://chessbookreviews.wordpress.com/tag/vincent-moret/
Opening Repertoire 1 e4
https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/7819.pdf

Openings for Amateurs by Pete Tamburro
http://kenilworthian.blogspot.com/2014/05/review-of-pete-tamburros-openings-for.html
https://chessbookreviews.wordpress.com/tag/openings-for-amateurs/
https://www.mongoosepress.com/catalog/excerpts/openings_amateurs.pdf

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I would just like to know something. I play the scotch as white, so what would lead me to a similar position for black against e4. I am already set for d4 and as white.

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double fiachetto

 

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I would play this position as white any day.

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French Defence and ignore the QB. Or just play b3 and e3.

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I think b3 and e3. Black has tactics.

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Any open Sicilian.