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adityasaxena4

I despise Pirc as White

PineappleBird
1983B-Boy wrote:
the alekhine doesn't bother me at all these days. it used to, but i've won 6 out of 10 of my krejciks WITHOUT study. it's not "the best line", but I like disrupting black's castling rights and having an active queen, though she CAN get chased
 

This seems very nice, I will try it in blitz but these positions are not so flowing for White.

I play the Haxo Gambit and sometimes I struggle to punish the dubious king even after getting one of my top lines in... It looks like a bad king but... People seem to enjoy this stuff! Maybe cuz their your plan is clear - trade queens, bring on the endgame tactics/consolidate and grind. Very clear plan for Black, I guess...

And even if the queens remain on, the middle game normally does get quite double edged even when my first position out of book is +1.5, or +2... Let alone -0.8.

Considering the opponent is prepared for playing "out" of +4 positions, choosing a counter-attacking opening for a reason, giving him an unbalanced equal position for nothing seems like a gift Black will be grateful for (and it would be hard for me to trust myself against such a player unless I study the hell out of this position which I won't...)... a 50% win rate for Black is substantial.

That being said, I'm going to try your suggestion anyways! happy.png

gik-tally

don't know why you despise the monte carlo gambit (which supposedly transposes into the the scandinavian icelandic gambi) as I quit playing it because no-one would accept the gambit.

gik-tally
adityasaxena4 wrote:

I despise Pirc as White

the Byrne variation has super winning stats and is supposed to be the most aggressive line. looking at theory. pirc seems more complicated than modern where you also play the byrne. the chinese variation is a 2nd choice that has really good stats too, but slightly worse than byrne

gik-tally
PineappleBird wrote:

I play the Haxo Gambit and sometimes I struggle to punish the dubious king even after getting one of my top lines in... It looks like a bad king but... People seem to enjoy this stuff! Maybe cuz their your plan is clear - trade queens, bring on the endgame tactics/consolidate and grind. Very clear plan for Black, I guess...

And even if the queens remain on, the middle game normally does get quite double edged even when my first position out of book is +1.5, or +2... Let alone -0.8.

Considering the opponent is prepared for playing "out" of +4 positions, choosing a counter-attacking opening for a reason, giving him an unbalanced equal position for nothing seems like a gift Black will be grateful for (and it would be hard for me to trust myself against such a player unless I study the hell out of this position which I won't...)... a 50% win rate for Black is substantial.

That being said, I'm going to try your suggestion anyways!

here's my BEST krejcik at 87% accuracy, but I won one game down in the 40s. as rare as the alekhine is for WHITE, the krejcik sure must be for black. even when i was a 1400, I played a 1700 and chased him all the way out into my queenside as I just kept developing everything at him until he eventually turned it around. I thought I had him!

The_Cool_Chess_Player

I play the Reti gambit, which leads to very fun positions if they take the pawn and I go 3.e4 The game becomes boring and slow if they just defend it.

I haven't found a "solution" for this line yet

Crispysrisp
The_Cool_Chess_Player написал:

I play the Reti gambit, which leads to very fun positions if they take the pawn and I go 3.e4 The game becomes boring and slow if they just defend it.

 

I haven't found a "solution" for this line yet

This reminds me of danyyil dryyvni's reccomendation in his "Classic english" course that is lethal, sharp, and steady.

adityasaxena4
The_Cool_Chess_Player wrote:

I play the Reti gambit, which leads to very fun positions if they take the pawn and I go 3.e4 The game becomes boring and slow if they just defend it.

 

I haven't found a "solution" for this line yet

Just play d4 making it a Zukertort Queens Pawn and then if 3.dxc4 then 4.e4 is the Rozenthal QGA , if 3.Nf6 going for a Queens Gambit Declined then 4.Nc3 is the Anglo-Indian Hedgehog System of the English Opening after which 4.c6 is a Semi-Slav Defence from where 5.Bg5 transposes to a Traditional Queens Gambit Declined after which 5.Be7 for Black transposes to the Modern Queens Gambit Declined or Modern QGD . if 4.Bb4 then 5.g3 is a Catalan , 5.Bg5 , 5.e3 or 5.Qb3 are also the Ragozin Defence of the Queens Gambit Declined . Either way the solution is to head towards a QGD or QGA

Yahyaaaa4

sicilian french, french, london system, bird

Crispysrisp
Yahyaaaa4 написал:

sicilian french, french, london system, bird

The one's you hate to play.

gik-tally
The_Cool_Chess_Player wrote:

I play the Reti gambit, which leads to very fun positions if they take the pawn and I go 3.e4 The game becomes boring and slow if they just defend it.

 

I haven't found a "solution" for this line yet

like facing the english, that one IS a tought nut to crack with white having a stats edge in pretty much every line. it isn't what YOU play, but you could always go with the second most popular reply, the symmetrical, but even then, white still has a 6% edge in the main line]

the nice thing about this line is that you don't really need theory, for at least 4 moves anyways
back to YOUR line
this line has almost = results at 47:47 in 22k games. 1...d5 isn't the strongest performing reply and 2...e6 has SLIGHTLY worse results than c6. the deeper one goes into a line that "starts off losing", the harder it becomes to find solutions. if a line starts out at +5%, you're likely going to have to dig through a lot of losing lines IF you can find one that has comeback potential... usually in the sidelines
 
my stats stonewalling the zukertort are 52:48 in 44 games... almost =, so stonewalling is another option
 
HEY! the dutch actually has winning results against the zukertort!
45:51@439k games +0.5 black "is winning" (1600-2000)
 
you might not have FUN with this line, but it is winnable
going back to a symmetrical start, the KIA spassky variation looks good for black too wherer black has a 2% winning edge in the main line
it looks kind of like a benko gambit
The_Cool_Chess_Player
1983B-Boy wrote:

like facing the english, that one IS a tought nut to crack with white having a stats edge in pretty much every line. it isn't what YOU play, but you could always go with the second most popular reply, the symmetrical, but even then, white still has a 6% edge in the main line]

the nice thing about this line is that you don't really need theory, for at least 4 moves anyways
back to YOUR line
this line has almost = results at 47:47 in 22k games. 1...d5 isn't the strongest performing reply and 2...e6 has SLIGHTLY worse results than c6. the deeper one goes into a line that "starts off losing", the harder it becomes to find solutions. if a line starts out at +5%, you're likely going to have to dig through a lot of losing lines IF you can find one that has comeback potential... usually in the sidelines
 
my stats stonewalling the zukertort are 52:48 in 44 games... almost =, so stonewalling is another option
 
HEY! the dutch actually has winning results against the zukertort!
45:51@439k games +0.5 black "is winning" (1600-2000)
 
 
you might not have FUN with this line, but it is winnable
going back to a symmetrical start, the KIA spassky variation looks good for black too wherer black has a 2% winning edge in the main line
it looks kind of like a benko gambit

I meant playing as white and your opponent plays 2.e6 instead of dxc4, sorry for the confusion.

adityasaxena4
adityasaxena4 wrote:
The_Cool_Chess_Player wrote:

I play the Reti gambit, which leads to very fun positions if they take the pawn and I go 3.e4 The game becomes boring and slow if they just defend it.

 

I haven't found a "solution" for this line yet

Just play d4 making it a Zukertort Queens Pawn and then if 3.dxc4 then 4.e4 is the Rozenthal QGA , if 3.Nf6 going for a Queens Gambit Declined then 4.Nc3 is the Anglo-Indian Hedgehog System of the English Opening after which 4.c6 is a Semi-Slav Defence from where 5.Bg5 transposes to a Traditional Queens Gambit Declined after which 5.Be7 for Black transposes to the Modern Queens Gambit Declined or Modern QGD . if 4.Bb4 then 5.g3 is a Catalan , 5.Bg5 , 5.e3 or 5.Qb3 are also the Ragozin Defence of the Queens Gambit Declined . Either way the solution is to head towards a QGD or QGA

This is what that would look like !

The_Cool_Chess_Player
adityasaxena4 wrote:

This is what that would look like !

Thank you! this is very useful! grin.png I'll start using some of the lines!

gik-tally

this isn't where I parked the car!

Blazkowitzz

i dont like the halloween gambt because i keep trying to do it and they keep rejecting me

Crispysrisp
Blazkowitzz написал:

i dont like the halloween gambt because i keep trying to do it and they keep rejecting me

Do you mean they keep giving up a free pawn?

Blazkowitzz
Crispysrisp wrote:
Blazkowitzz написал:

i dont like the halloween gambt because i keep trying to do it and they keep rejecting me

Do you mean they keep giving up a free pawn?

Blazkowitzz

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gik-tally

now you know how I felt TRYING to play the monte carlo french. french fries hate gambits