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I saw this opening today
if White plays decently after 3. Bd3 he gets an advantage, I would never take Black in any of the resulting positions
I'll do it in blitz with no appreciable difference in results from other openings because at 1000 rated 3/0 blitz played in binges in order to numb the emotional pain of existence nothing really matters.
Although having the bishop on the diagonal is positionally helpful because when I inevitably blunder a bunch of material it makes a desperate unsound attack more likely to succeed.
But I'm next level like that.
Jan 20, 2022
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#86
ConfusedGhoul wrote:
if White plays decently after 3. Bd3 he gets an advantage, I would never take Black in any of the resulting positions
it true that white does get a decent edge and black takes longer to equalize than in most defenses, but black's positions are by now means dull. the positions you get have a lot of latent counterplay, although black usually must bide his time a little if white goes for the more testing setups.
I have had fantastic results with 1.b6. In the last month alone i had a GM scalp and an streamed IM scalp on lichess, both 15+10 format so no cheap blitz win either. One was a brutal attacking game where i came out on top, and the other was a positional crush on the queenside. And yes, both played quite testing lines with 3.bd3, no easy 3.nc3 line either.
I don't think openings matter that much. Especially if you're playing mostly blitz. https://youtu.be/2boTYE7xpGw
Jun 2, 2022
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#88
Kaliman555 wrote:
I don't think openings matter that much. Especially if you're playing mostly blitz. https://youtu.be/2boTYE7xpGw
While for most of us schmoes openings really don't matter that much, they do matter some, and Owens Defense spends the first 3 moves threatening nothing and letting White take over the center as he pleases. No point in starting with the second move and digging a hole for the middlegame.
Jun 2, 2022
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#90
Julien852 wrote:
Hi everybody,
I recently heard about an opening named "Owen's defence". Is it a good opening ?
If you intend to play it on Daily,. it's not a good opening or defense.. It's playable in Live games.
Jun 3, 2022
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#91
B1ZMARK wrote:
Maybe I enjoy doing nothing.
You seem good at it. Keep it up!
Jun 3, 2022
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#92
DrSpudnik wrote:
B1ZMARK wrote:
Maybe I enjoy doing nothing.
You seem good at it. Keep it up!
Thanks!
Look at records of high level O.T.B. tournaments, and you'll get your answer.
Jun 14, 2022
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#94
Optimissed wrote:
The real reason you should start with 1. e6 is because it keeps white guessing for another move and it's incorrect to play 2. ....Bb7 in any case, no matter that modern GMs and engines often prefer it. In this, the older generation of GMs was correct.
database disagrees with you. on queen pawn games you do want to play e6 before b6 but on the owen's delaying bb7 gives white more options for no good reason. All the b6 masters play bb7 right away from Bauer, to Blatny, to Filipovic to Naka when he plays it on blitz
Jun 14, 2022
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#95
darkunorthodox88 wrote:
Optimissed wrote:
The real reason you should start with 1. e6 is because it keeps white guessing for another move and it's incorrect to play 2. ....Bb7 in any case, no matter that modern GMs and engines often prefer it. In this, the older generation of GMs was correct.
database disagrees with you. on queen pawn games you do want to play e6 before b6 but on the owen's delaying bb7 gives white more options for no good reason. All the b6 masters play bb7 right away from Bauer, to Blatny, to Filipovic to Naka when he plays it on blitz
Did Super GMs play Owen on Classical Games? I believe it's not playable for Daily and Classical Time Control.
Calm down to those who says it's an good opening.. Pretty much confusing opening
. For both black and white
Firstly moving edged pawns instead of central in opening is just nonsense.. White plans is simple.. Moving those central pawns gainn space gain development and trade those two annoying bishops at annoying diagnols.. Although if white does not know what to do as they don't know the opening.. Then black can take that advantage..
play4fun64 wrote:
darkunorthodox88 wrote:
Optimissed wrote:
The real reason you should start with 1. e6 is because it keeps white guessing for another move and it's incorrect to play 2. ....Bb7 in any case, no matter that modern GMs and engines often prefer it. In this, the older generation of GMs was correct.
database disagrees with you. on queen pawn games you do want to play e6 before b6 but on the owen's delaying bb7 gives white more options for no good reason. All the b6 masters play bb7 right away from Bauer, to Blatny, to Filipovic to Naka when he plays it on blitz
Did Super GMs play Owen on Classical Games? I believe it's not playable for Daily and Classical Time Control.
True..
Jun 15, 2022
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#99
sachin884 wrote:
Calm down to those who says it's an good opening.. Pretty much confusing opening
. For both black and white
Firstly moving edged pawns instead of central in opening is just nonsense.. White plans is simple.. Moving those central pawns gainn space gain development and trade those two annoying bishops at annoying diagnols.. Although if white does not know what to do as they don't know the opening.. Then black can take that advantage..
The Nimzo-Larsen and Modern Defence are both completely sound, and can pop up from time to time in top-tier chess, including classical games.
spartakbarnsley wrote:
sachin884 wrote:
Calm down to those who says it's an good opening.. Pretty much confusing opening
. For both black and white
Firstly moving edged pawns instead of central in opening is just nonsense.. White plans is simple.. Moving those central pawns gainn space gain development and trade those two annoying bishops at annoying diagnols.. Although if white does not know what to do as they don't know the opening.. Then black can take that advantage..
The Nimzo-Larsen and Modern Defence are both completely sound, and can pop up from time to time in top-tier chess, including classical games.
i agree.. but owens defense is not good
I usually play it in bullet and blitz, every once in a while in rapid. Got me to 2400 bullet for the first time. Played it otb twice, as black against the London system vs a 2000 UScF player. I was much better by move ten but ended up dropping many pawns (carelessness and moving too fast) so it ended up as a draw. I was rated 1790. The second time was against a floor 1900. I was rated 1720. He played the botvinnik system. I played Nh6, f6, Nf7, f5, all that stuff. Ended up winning.
Works best against system openings. Botvinnik? Just Nh6. London? Same. Colle? Works too.
It isn't exactly Owens which is supposed to be after e4 but I get what you're saying. Did you ever try it against 1. e4?
I thought you were asking about the setup that the curtis guy played.