Philidor or Scotch?

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What would this opening be called. It looks like White is playing the Scotch while Black is transposing to the Philidor?

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That's the Scotch, but d6 is pretty week.  I would say after d5 white has a nice edge.  Great space, black gets cramped.  My database has white winning after d6 70%+.

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gimly wrote:

That's the Scotch, but d6 is pretty week.  I would say after d5 white has a nice edge.  Great space, black gets cramped.  My database has white winning after d6 70%+.


Thank you. Scotch it is.  Cool

Avatar of VLaurenT

I think it's a Philidor.

The pawn structure prevails on the move order.

Avatar of dsachs

I agree. looks Philidoricious to me

Avatar of TheOldReb

If white plays 4 Bb5 now its a steinitz variation of the Ruy Lopez .

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Reb wrote:

If white plays 4 Bb5 now its a steinitz variation of the Ruy Lopez .


True Smile

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Scid calls this "Scotch 3...d6", even after the Philidor move order. But it's pretty arbitrary.