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Pirc Defense after 1.d4
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Nov 21, 2021
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pirc main idea is to play passive unless yuh activate all yure piece and check out yure piece are being active
Nov 21, 2021
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The major difference is the White c-pawn.
After 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3, the c-pawn is on c2, and after 3...g6 4.Nf3 Bg7 5.Be2 c6, Black will follow up with ...b5 and threaten ...b4 to dislodge the knight, the only thing covering the e-pawn.
After 1.d4 d6 2.c4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.e4 Bg7 5.Nf3, the major difference is the White c-pawn. It is now on c4 instead of c2. Because of this, b7-b5-b4 ideas are pretty much impossible, making an attack on e4 impossible.
BUT, with both e4 and c4 pushed, whether or not d5 is played, the d4-square is very weak for White, hence after 5...O-O 6.Be2, Black plays 6...e5, to take over control of d4 (not e4, like the Pirc), and Black would love to get a Knight in there on d4 at a time that it is safe. He does so, he's probably winning.
Many think that playing the Pirc and King's Indian is a good thing, but that is so far from the truth because despite Black's pawn structure being the same after 4 moves, White's is not, and that changes EVERYTHING!
The Pirc is a semi-open game. The King's Indian often leads to blocked positions. The King pawn opening with the most similar ideas to the Kings Indian Defense would be the French Defense. Blocked Center, attack on the wings, and attack the side to which your blocked pawns point. So in the French, White attacks Kingside, Black Queenside. In the King's Indian, Black attacks Kingside, White Queenside.
Neither of these openings are anything at all like the Pirc, and the fact that the White c-pawn is what differentiates the Pirc from the King's Indian is why Black cannot force a Pirc after 1.d4 unless White responds to 1...d6 with 2.e4 instead of 2.c4.
Hope this clears up the confusion.
ThrillerFan escreveu:
The major difference is the White c-pawn.
After 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3, the c-pawn is on c2, and after 3...g6 4.Nf3 Bg7 5.Be2 c6, Black will follow up with ...b5 and threaten ...b4 to dislodge the knight, the only thing covering the e-pawn.
After 1.d4 d6 2.c4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.e4 Bg7 5.Nf3, the major difference is the White c-pawn. It is now on c4 instead of c2. Because of this, b7-b5-b4 ideas are pretty much impossible, making an attack on e4 impossible.
BUT, with both e4 and c4 pushed, whether or not d5 is played, the d4-square is very weak for White, hence after 5...O-O 6.Be2, Black plays 6...e5, to take over control of d4 (not e4, like the Pirc), and Black would love to get a Knight in there on d4 at a time that it is safe. He does so, he's probably winning.
Many think that playing the Pirc and King's Indian is a good thing, but that is so far from the truth because despite Black's pawn structure being the same after 4 moves, White's is not, and that changes EVERYTHING!
The Pirc is a semi-open game. The King's Indian often leads to blocked positions. The King pawn opening with the most similar ideas to the Kings Indian Defense would be the French Defense. Blocked Center, attack on the wings, and attack the side to which your blocked pawns point. So in the French, White attacks Kingside, Black Queenside. In the King's Indian, Black attacks Kingside, White Queenside.
Neither of these openings are anything at all like the Pirc, and the fact that the White c-pawn is what differentiates the Pirc from the King's Indian is why Black cannot force a Pirc after 1.d4 unless White responds to 1...d6 with 2.e4 instead of 2.c4.
Hope this clears up the confusion.
Wow! Cleared up the confusion for sure. Thank you very much!
I know that The Pirc Defense is a chess opening for Black against 1.e4. So I must conclude that there is no way to force a pirc defense line against 1.d4, right? But I would like to know why it is impossible to force it, if you would be so kind as to explaint it to me.