Ruy Lopez or Italian game. Which is better?

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The title says it all.

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Neither!

That is like saying which is better, Vanilla or Chocolate.  Objectively, neither!  But you throw opinions into the equations and you'll get arguments to the level of what you get in a religious or political discussion!

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I find the Ruy Lopez to be a better game. There are lots of variations to play on early that change the way the game plays out (which obviously applies to all games but I think it’s particularly true for Ruy Lopez)
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For you the Italian

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The Spanish. The Italian yells a lot and put horse heads under your sheets.

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I like Italian game. It can get boring, but underneath it can be very aggressive

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IMBacon wrote:
shloksinha wrote:

The title says it all.

Depends on what type of middlegames you're aiming for.  Asking this type of question will not give you a correct answer.  All it will do is give you peoples opinions.

the middle games in the closed spanish and slow italian are very similar

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Italian, I'm not biased

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Italian, but I’m biased haha

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(I'm biased too)

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FossilizedBlob wrote:

Italian, but I’m biased haha

yep

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The Giuoco Piano Game is my personal favorite, but what opening is the best is a matter of opinion. 

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Ruy Lopez involves more theory with both colors and takes a lot of technique and mastery of subtle manuevering to play well. The Italian, on the other hand, gives a more straightforward game but less options to obtain a long-term advantage compared to the Ruy.

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As has been said it depends on your knowledge, your strengths/weaknesses, what you are comfortable playing.  

Most chess experts since the 20th century prefer the Ruy Lopez though. The Italian is only played a fraction of the time in comparison and you could argue it's a way of avoiding the theory of the Ruy. I don't know of any gm who uses the Italian as their main opening, but that's not to say it can't be done.    

People might argue there isn't as much theory in the Italian so it's easier but I don't know man - one reason for the sprawling theory in the Ruy is that black has trouble containing white's advantage while with the Italian you really have to know what you're doing to keep and press the advantage.   

For me the best thing about the Italian game is you might get a fun 2 knight's defence game from it.  

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Today's best players know it is rather easy to draw against the Ruy Lopez.  That is why the Ruy Lopez is being played less and less and the Italian game is being played a little more.

Back in the day-my very first USCF chess game--when I was an unrated player--My expert opponent played it against me.  It was quite popular then.

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ponz111 wrote:

Today's best players know it is rather easy to draw against the Ruy Lopez.  That is why the Ruy Lopez is being played less and less and the Italian game is being played a little more.

Back in the day-my very first USCF chess game--when I was an unrated player--My expert opponent played it against me.  It was quite popular then.

I'll give you the Marshall as a possible drawing attempt by black, but white can avoid this. As for the other lines, there still seems to be plenty of play left in the Ruy for both white and black.   Is there a specific drawing line you are thinking of?  

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