Serious Question: Why is everyone playing 2. Qh5 or pulling their queen out so early????

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Avatar of Rooks4Rock

For the past week, I can't help but notice whenever I play a match here anymore, it's nothing but people just not even playing seriously, almost like they just instinctively pull their queen out as soon as possible, I have studied some variations of the Queen Kiddie Counter side Gambit, but lately it's almost feels impossible to defend my back rank. ADVICE AND TIPS ARE MORE THAN APPRECIATED!!

Update: It keeps happening, seems like I got more serious Chess games as a 100 ELO player than now as a 300, just insanely ridiculous but Eh... guess Ima push through it.

Thanks,

Rock

Avatar of delcai007

Fool's Mate and Scholar's/Schoolboy's Mate both seem like genius ideas to noobs. They aren't really after a game, they want to just kill it right at the onset. Instead of wanting to match their skill against yours, the idea is to just memorize three or four lines, o skill required, and hope their opponents aren't paying attention. It shows disrespect for the game, at least, and possibly disrespect towards you as well (sometimes they just don't know any better. One of my favorite things is to punish bringing the Queen into the game too early.

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delcai007 wrote:

Fool's Mate and Scholar's/Schoolboy's Mate both seem like genius ideas to noobs. They aren't really after a game, they want to just kill it right at the onset. Instead of wanting to match their skill against yours, the idea is to just memorize three or four lines, o skill required, and hope their opponents aren't paying attention. It shows disrespect for the game, at least, and possibly disrespect towards you as well (sometimes they just don't know any better. One of my favorite things is to punish bringing the Queen into the game too early.

Yeah, me too when you can punish the Queen properly! Just sucks resigning or losing to these guys because it feels SO disrespectful to the game whenever it happens! I Wish Levy went over 1. E4 C6 2. Qh5 G6 lol. Thank you for dropping that video, I will try to stick to those principles next time it happens!

Avatar of pcalugaru

Outside of the Center Game and the Center Counter Defense (Scandinavian to Euro Peeps) above a certain ELO... one doesn't usually see that anymore

Avatar of Drext-Cl

for the scholars mate

Avatar of Josh11live
If you are doing the caro and your opponent does the Qh5 thn just play the normal stuff d5 exd5 cxd5 and you stop Bc4 and if they do c4 just attack the queen with Nf6. I came up with this myself and the way you can too is to just go to analysis board and make white/black play the scholars.
Avatar of NeilandasLT2

its because at lower elo chess players tend to attack a lot with their queen. Its easy to punish that by just developing and attacking the queen. have in mind to think atleast 1 move ahead for your oponent

Avatar of technical_knockout

should lead to only a draw with best play... 😆

Avatar of Juned_chess

Hello friends

Avatar of Sargon_Three

Check out the bots. If I recall, one of them always attacks with the Queen. You can practice a little.

Edit: If you can't find it, set up a board on lichess and tweak the stockfish level to your difficulty.

Avatar of Rooks4Rock
Josh11live wrote:
If you are doing the caro and your opponent does the Qh5 thn just play the normal stuff d5 exd5 cxd5 and you stop Bc4 and if they do c4 just attack the queen with Nf6. I came up with this myself and the way you can too is to just go to analysis board and make white/black play the scholars.

I usually find it happening more often after I play c5 going for a sicilian lol, might mess around in the analysis board later!

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technical_knockout wrote:

should lead to only a draw with best play... 😆

Wow, never seen a chess game like THAT ever before! Interesting and glad it did lead to a draw!

Avatar of HeckinSprout

Those are the waters you find yourself sailing in right now. Unfortunately, it gets results at this rating level which is why people keep doing it.

Also, I applaud you for trying to play the Sicilian and challenging yourself, but it's not a beginner friendly opening. I wouldn't recommend it for anyone under 1000. There are a lot of lines to know about when playing it, and opponents at this level are going to deviate almost immediately, which means you can't play a Sicillian.
Take this game you played:
https://www.chess.com/analysis/game/live/141253259282/

Move 3 you would have needed to find the move e6. Instead you play g6 which I guess you are going for a dragon sicillian type setup, but you can't brute force an opening idea when your opponent isn't allowing it.

Avatar of pfren

I guess they try to win a pawn, which you may willingly offer: After 2...Nf6 3.Qxe5+ Be7 Black has at least enough for a pawn (better development, unsafe white queen).

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HeckinSprout wrote:

Those are the waters you find yourself sailing in right now. Unfortunately, it gets results at this rating level which is why people keep doing it.

Also, I applaud you for trying to play the Sicilian and challenging yourself, but it's not a beginner friendly opening. I wouldn't recommend it for anyone under 1000. There are a lot of lines to know about when playing it, and opponents at this level are going to deviate almost immediately, which means you can't play a Sicillian.
Take this game you played:
https://www.chess.com/analysis/game/live/141253259282/

Move 3 you would have needed to find the move e6. Instead you play g6 which I guess you are going for a dragon sicillian type setup, but you can't brute force an opening idea when your opponent isn't allowing it.

Thank you and I may begin to play another opening for black, I have found that the more that I play the Sicilian I usually have that trick played on me more! I appreciate the advice!!

Avatar of friendlyskp143
After 1. e4 e5 2. Qh5 you want to defend the pawn on e4 with 2…Nc6 and chances are that they will move 3. Bc4 then you can kick the queen out with 3…g6 and 4. Qf3 then 4…Nf6
Avatar of Sebu13

They do it, because that's the most effective way to play at 300 elo. If you want to get rid of that stuff, you need to up your game to about 1200.

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