Sharp Black defenses

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InfiniteFlash
Fear_ItseIf wrote:

The stonewall is a far cry better than the classical, but its not exactly sharp, wouldnt you agree?

EDIT: I never said it was BAD for black, I just said he wouldnt be playin for a win, though he has good drawing chances.

Anyway, here it is:

 



agreed, black has many setups other than Ne4 there btw, but i get your point.

 i think one interesting plan is 8..Bd7 9.Rb1 Be8 10.b4?! dxc4! 11.b5 a6, when black is probably MORE than okay. 8..b6 has some merit too. True, white can play the most dullish and drawish stuff, but i really dont mind grinding it out, because i doubt white wanted this in the first place!

ghostofmaroczy

I mentioned the Benko Gambit in post #4.  p-wnattack rementioned it in post #7.  Fear_Itself rerementioned it in post #38.  Then in post #39 opticRED says nobody is looking towards Benko Gambit aside from the guy in post #38.  Does anybody actually read the thread?  Or do people just blast away with their diatribes?

opticRED
ghostofmaroczy wrote:

I mentioned the Benko Gambit in post #4.  p-wnattack rementioned it in post #7.  Fear_Itself rerementioned it in post #38.  Then in post #39 opticRED says nobody is looking towards Benko Gambit aside from the guy in post #38.  Does anybody actually read the thread?  Or do people just blast away with their diatribes?

my bad. sorry. I forgot to mention your name.

Bishop_Hurricane

i am having the exact same problem but i am scared to play sicilian because after 2.d6 or Nc6 3. Bb5 so if you have a counter to 3.Bb5 plz tell me because i love sicilian but if not i reccomend the modern or the pirc, but personally the modern because it is a surprise opening and you usually need the bishop on g7 sooner than you need a pawn on d6 and you can get your king to safety faster and also it is a good line that you want to keep and pirc is more likely to transpose.

Against d4 at the top of my list i say Grunfeld you look into because it is very tricky and very sharp unless you transpose. I also say you look into the Bogo Indian because it is powerful and if white plays 3.Nc3 you get a nasty pin  with 3.Bb4 and if he plays 3.Nf3 (going for Catalan) you stun your opponent with 3.b6 4.g3 4.Ba6 you make white realize he was about to fianchetto the bishop that was going to get his pawn back on c4 and you get a tricky game. Maybe the benko gambit using the Benoni and maybe, just maybe the Chigorin defense.

InfiniteFlash

Speak of the devil, if anyone is interested, I did do a leningrad seriesvon youtube.

ghostofmaroczy
Bishop_Hurricane wrote:

if he plays 3.Nf3 (going for Catalan) you stun your opponent with 3.b6 4.g3 4.Ba6 you make white realize he was about to fianchetto the bishop that was going to get his pawn back on c4 and you get a tricky game.

On 1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 e6 White has 3 g3 going for a Catalan.

Bishop_Hurricane

he can transpose from Nf3

ghostofmaroczy
Bishop_Hurricane wrote:

he can transpose from Nf3

No he can't.

You said it yourself.  Black plays 3...b6 entering the Queen's Indian which is no longer a Catalan.

Stop putting glue in your coffee.

shepi13

After Qb3 black usually plays 10...Kh8 or 10...h6, preventing ideas like in the game. 10...e6 is probably also good, but you have to play 11...Qe7 as 11...exd5 leads to a disaster on the d file.

congrandolor

Albin countergambit, man!! The best way to get an open position aganist 1.d4 and to take your opponent out of theory! Against 1.e4 you could try the Scandinavian, an opening only for braves!

-BEES-
Bishop_Hurricane wrote:

i am having the exact same problem but i am scared to play sicilian because after 2.d6 or Nc6 3. Bb5 so if you have a counter to 3.Bb5 plz tell me because i love sicilian but if not i reccomend the modern or the pirc, but personally the modern because it is a surprise opening and you usually need the bishop on g7 sooner than you need a pawn on d6 and you can get your king to safety faster and also it is a good line that you want to keep and pirc is more likely to transpose.

Against d4 at the top of my list i say Grunfeld you look into because it is very tricky and very sharp unless you transpose. I also say you look into the Bogo Indian because it is powerful and if white plays 3.Nc3 you get a nasty pin  with 3.Bb4 and if he plays 3.Nf3 (going for Catalan) you stun your opponent with 3.b6 4.g3 4.Ba6 you make white realize he was about to fianchetto the bishop that was going to get his pawn back on c4 and you get a tricky game. Maybe the benko gambit using the Benoni and maybe, just maybe the Chigorin defense.

The hyper-accelerated dragon move order avoids Bb5 shenanigans. You would still have to deal with other anti-dragons, anti-sicilians, and closed sicilians of course. 4.Qxd4 leads to much less for White than 3.Bb5, so that's comparatively less to have to study.

 

White's attacking ideas against the modern and the pirc are every bit as dangerous as they are in the open Sicilian, and unfortunately for pirc players they're also much easier to memorize. Take a look at some GM games with the Austrian attack. Not that Black doesn't have sharp counterattacks that can happen, if White stumbles or overpresses, but the same spirit is there. Black makes an innocent looking move, and suddenly the kingside is on fire.

 

mecuelgalapieza wrote:

Albin countergambit, man!! The best way to get an open position aganist 1.d4 and to take your opponent out of theory! Against 1.e4 you could try the Scandinavian, an opening only for braves!

The Nf6 Scandi can be really sharp, or it can be really dull and dry. It's White's choice. It does have a lot of shock value, especially at the club level. The mainlines with Qxd5 are usually more positional. The Albin is also definitely one of the sharpest tries against d4. I find myself playing the Tarrasch defense more lately, which can also be very dynamic, as IQP openings often are, without as much risk as the Albin.

ghostofmaroczy
Fiveofswords wrote:

Math is awesome.

And you are not.

ghostofmaroczy
Fiveofswords wrote:

really. dude makes a snide foolish comment about what I evidently know, not even remembering that 3 > 2. And you want to join the stupid bandwagon. Love you guys.

Love you too, Five.

maheshsjartarghar

hi there im mr. mahesh I m an intermediate play with me.. I guarantee u that ur going to have a great game. . Thanks u

-BEES-
Fiveofswords wrote:

i dont really understand why you would call the KID or Sicilian tactical. I think they are not tactical at all. These are highly positional openings. Sure there are some variations where crazy tactical complications might exist but they are not necessarily critical positions for either color. Tactical games tend to be open. Kid and Sicilian tend to be fairly closed for a long time....especially the KID.

An open position is not inherently dynamic, and a closed position is not inherently dry. One could argue that Semi-open positions start off being more dynamic since the central commitments are different for the two sides from the get-go. Personally I don't think they're any less tactical, but I don't claim to be the be-all know-all of chess.

wiselady

what does sharp mean?

like we talking about cheddar cheese?

IronSteintz
wiselady wrote:

what does sharp mean?

like we talking about cheddar cheese?

It's both 'complicated and tactical' is about as close to a definition as I can think of. Walking on a high wire comes to mind.