Sicilian Defense: Closed Variation

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ltristam

I love sicilian openings. I have watched many players open up with that.

ltristam

hope you enjoy!

VULPES_VULPES

Enjoy.... what?

ltristam

the conversation and talking about it.

VULPES_VULPES

what conversation? there is none

ltristam

I know! Weird

VULPES_VULPES

lol

AKAL1

Closed Sicilian gives Black an easy game. This conversation is somehow in Hot Topics. This post is completely incoherent.

ltristam

I did not know black could win

ltristam

Good for me if Im black!

Hydra_Does_Chess

no not the closed sicillian. no. why.

poucin

Closed sicilian is a very good opening.

There are various plans for either side, it is very instructive and educational.

It also gives u a kind of repertoire against english with 1.c4 e5 and u will try the same set up.

I don't know what u want, if u want informations, or just share your enthusiasm about it.

Anyway, those telling it gives black an easy game are really impetuous.

If it is so easy for black, why Spassky championned it with great results (when he was world champion...), Carlsen sometimes play it with great results too, Short regularly plays it despite being an expert on open sicilians, and many GM use it...

SaintGermain32105

Whenever someone is playing the Sicilian I'm resigning without too much thought. There's no good answer to it. Everything else is bullsh*.

ltristam
SaintGermain32105 wrote:

Whenever someone is playing the Sicilian I'm resigning without too much thought. There's no good answer to it. Everything else is bullsh*.

You can always go on the internet  and find ways to defend against it. 

ltristam
poucin wrote:

Closed sicilian is a very good opening.

There are various plans for either side, it is very instructive and educational.

It also gives u a kind of repertoire against english with 1.c4 e5 and u will try the same set up.

I don't know what u want, if u want informations, or just share your enthusiasm about it.

Anyway, those telling it gives black an easy game are really impetuous.

If it is so easy for black, why Spassky championned it with great results (when he was world champion...), Carlsen sometimes play it with great results too, Short regularly plays it despite being an expert on open sicilians, and many GM use it...

Very good point by IM poucin. Yes, I didn't really think that black had an easy game after that was a good answer. 

kindaspongey
IM poucin wrote:

Closed sicilian is a very good opening.

... those telling it gives black an easy game are really impetuous.

If it is so easy for black, why Spassky championned it with great results (when he was world champion...),

How many examples are there for Spassky using 1 e4 c5 2 Nc3 from 1969 to 1972?

Beginning of game 1 in the 1969 match with Petrosian: 1 e4 c5 2 Nf3

Beginning of game 3 in the 1969 match with Petrosian: 1 e4 c5 2 Nf3

Beginning of game 17 in the 1969 match with Petrosian: 1 e4 c5 2 Nf3

Beginning of game 19 in the 1969 match with Petrosian: 1 e4 c5 2 Nf3

Beginning of game 23 in the 1969 match with Petrosian: 1 e4 c5 2 Nf3

Beginning of 1969 Palma de Mallorca game with Petrosian: 1 e4 c5 2 Nf3

Beginning of 1969 Palma de Mallorca game with Panno: 1 e4 c5 2 Nf3

Beginning of 1970 Pravda corr game with Pravda: 1 e4 c5 2 Nf3

Beginning of 1970 Oegstgeest game with Larsen: 1 e4 c5 2 Nf3

Beginning of 1970 Siegen game with Retek: 1 e4 c5 2 Nf3

Beginning of 1970 Amsterdam game with Polugaevsky: 1 e4 c5 2 Nf3

Beginning of 1971 Moscow game with Hort: 1 e4 c5 2 Nf3

Beginning of 1971 Moscow game with Tal: 1 e4 c5 2 Nf3

Beginning of game 7 in the 1972 match with Fischer: 1 e4 c5 2 Nf3

Beginning of game 11 in the 1972 match with Fischer: 1 e4 c5 2 Nf3

Beginning of game 15 in the 1972 match with Fischer: 1 e4 c5 2 Nf3

Beginning of game 21 in the 1972 match with Fischer: 1 e4 c5 2 Nf3

2013min35

any one can tel me how to play chess in tournament ?

ltristam
2013min35 wrote:

any one can tel me how to play chess in tournament ?

What???

kindaspongey
jengaias wrote:

There are 5 games in which Spassky played Closed Sicilian , 3 on 1969 and 2 on 1970.These games are from a Moscow tournament that is not in databases as it didn't agree with FIDE requirements(the case with a lot of Soviet tournaments that eventually stayed out of the databases).There is a soviet booklet about Closed Sicilian written at 1973 by Balashov(he was Spassky's second) and Lutikov with 53 games at the end that contain all these games plus many more that are not in databases(Balashov's games most of them).Surprisingly Spassky stopped playing Closed Sicilian at 1971 and started again at 1976 although it is possible that he used Closed Sicilian in other Soviet tournaments that are not in databases.

But how many times Spassky used Closed Sicilian during 1969-1972 is hardly the point.

The point is that he was one of the experts and played Closed Sicilian in important games(7 times in candidate matches doing 5 wins and 2 draws , 3 of his wins were against the Sicilian expert and one of the best players of all times, Efim Geller).All these that say that Black has an easy game in Closed Sicilian obviously don't understand a lot.

 

"The Closed Sicilian is not an especially good opening, which is pretty much the case for most openings that almost no top players play on a regular basis TODAY. What people did 50 years ago is irrelevant. That's not to say that someone like Short, or Adams won't trot it out for a single game here and there, but almost no one uses it as their exclusive answer to the Sicilian, which generally means it's not very good.

If top players aren't playing it, it's usually not good. Sometimes there will be exceptions, but they are rare and you'd need good evidence to back it up. Honestly if I know someone is playing the Closed Sicilian, I can pick one of probably 5-6 lines, each of which I can learn in probably 15 minutes, and expect to get a fully playable position without much difficulty." - IM Greg Shahade (2012)

Nckchrls

Maybe Spassky's best closed was his wins against Geller in 68 match. Good examples of how to attack kside. Other related is Fischer's take up of Nc3 as a Sicilian response. Again some good games.