Sicilian or French Defense?

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Sea_TurtIe

french sicilian does not really have a ¨bad bishop¨ but is slower than the d6 sicilian

compare

french sicilian:

 
d6 

or

one last thing, often in the french sicilian you gotta deal with a pawn on c4, which makes the game much harder on black

Ethan_Brollier
Sea_TurtIe wrote:

sicilian or french

heres the real answer

In the french you get

  1. a quick counterattack
  2. a bad bishop on c8
  3. a space disadvantage
  4. a closed game
  5. having to endure the exchange variation
  6. possible quick equality

in the sicilian you get

  1. no symmetry
  2. a bit of a slower game (really depends how white plays)
  3. a backwards d pawn (sometimes)
  4. a small center
  5. easy development
  6. good activity on the c file and queenside
  7. a possible d5 break
  8. potentially strong bishops
  9. instant equality if white plays the closed sicilian

In the Winawer you get:

1. Slaughtered as White if you don’t know what you’re doing. 
2. A brilliant game if both players know what they’re doing. 
3. Slaughtered as Black if you don’t know what you’re doing.

Sea_TurtIe

yeah

ive had 0-0 in the poisoned pawn winaver and i just have a great time

Qc7 is the critical test as you give up 2 pawns for counterplay and development

PedroG1464

simple solution

MaetsNori

There's no wrong answer to this question. They both hold at all levels - even at the highest engine levels.

It's just a matter of choosing the style of play that you enjoy the most.

MaetsNori
Ultimate-trashtalker wrote:

U are wrong iron steam, everyone should play the najdorf Sicilian because every other opening is boring and dull and played on auto pilot 😂😂

Hah! tongue.png

Don't let ThrillerFan catch you saying that about the French. He'll bite your head off.

Erwinmk

I can't say anything about the Sicilian, but I do play the frnech defense and think this is indeed for both sides a very agressive opening if you want it to be. Furthermore, since I started playing again last year, I think that in many cases the French provides Black with numerous versatile options to play a very fluent game.

Ilampozhil25
Ultimate-trashtalker wrote:

U are wrong iron steam, everyone should play the najdorf Sicilian because every other opening is boring and dull and played on auto pilot 😂😂

who said that lolol

i was honestly making the same argument till i realised how stupid it is (if youre mocking samuel, which we all know you are)

Alchessblitz

I would say that the Sicilian Defense must be better because if White plays to make a draw it seems more difficult to do it in the Sicilian Defense than in the French Defense.

SamuelAjedrez95
Ultimate-trashtalker wrote:

U are wrong iron steam, everyone should play the najdorf Sicilian because every other opening is boring and dull and played on auto pilot 😂😂

Exactly. Najdorf elite reigns supreme. All other chess players cower in the shadow, grasping for dregs of glory that seep from the chiseled bodies of Sicilian Najdorf players.

MaetsNori
SamuelAjedrez95 wrote:
Ultimate-trashtalker wrote:

U are wrong iron steam, everyone should play the najdorf Sicilian because every other opening is boring and dull and played on auto pilot 😂😂

Exactly. Najdorf elite reigns supreme. All other chess players cower in the shadow, grasping for dregs of glory that seep from the chiseled bodies of Sicilian Najdorf players.

Us Caro-Kann players, meanwhile, live a lowly existence, burning incense at the altar of an ancient Karpovian temple.

"One day!" we chant. "A new Champion will bring us back into the light! It is written in the scriptures! We are not all pawns and no hope!"

Sea_TurtIe

¨Karpov out god! Show us the way!, we must prove to Benny watts and everyone else that we are the best opening to have ever existed¨

¨One day the chosen one will appear and bring us justice once and for all!¨

MaetsNori

Meanwhile, deep in the woods, there's a triangle-shaped temple with a lonely bishop standing outside, holding a stack of unread pamphlets. "Embrace the London System! It is the one true path! Rejoice in its universal design!" he calls out, to an empty forest.

(Okay, I'm having too much fun with this ... whatever this is.)

SamuelAjedrez95

The Cult of Caro grovel in the mud... a sorry sight. Cast aside and plagued by Rozmanism. Their light snuffed out.

They call up to the mountain of bones, of the one whose very name causes insanity... chilling dread... "Najdorf..." ...all shiver...

"Hast thou not quenched thy bloodthirst? Hast thou not powdered enough bone under foot?"

"...Nay"

Sea_TurtIe

¨Everyone! Embrace the London System for it is the only way to achieve true happiness!¨

¨Making the pawn triangle is the only way to stimulate yourself in life, it must be completed!¨

SamuelAjedrez95

They march, endlessly. They do not tire. No longer men, but shallow husks.

They repeat their mantra "Step 1: Liberate the bishop. Step 2: Complete the pawn pyramid."

Those who scavenge in the dirt, void of light, are easily sucked in, with the temptation of quick blood. Soon they will don the same robe.

Like zombies, they chant, "London. London. London. London. London."

MaetsNori

Lol @ this thread

Ilampozhil25

... wow what happened that got very weird very quick

Sea_TurtIe

these last few posts are pure comedy

Sea_TurtIe
SamuelAjedrez95 wrote:

The Cult of Caro grovel in the mud... a sorry sight. Cast aside and plagued by Rozmanism. Their light snuffed out.

They call up to the mountain of bones, of the one who's very name causes insanity... chilling dread... "Najdorf..." ...all shiver...

"Hast thou not quenched thy bloodthirst? Hast thou not powdered enough bone under foot?"

"...Nay"

¨Oh praise Gotham for our triumphs, and curse Najdorf for our sins...¨

¨Oh Gotham... Set us free from this unholy chamber that we worship you in, for thou art the sole human who can...¨