Sicilian Variation e4 c5 Nf3 e6

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Hi , 

I have come across e4 c5 Nf3 "e6" a lot in blitz games nowadays and was wondering whether this variation of Sicilian has a name ??  Can anyone let me know the name and any good links to the theory of the variation  ??

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It's called the French variation and that is the sum total of my knowledge about it.  At least with a name though you can look it up...

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baddogno wrote:

It's called the French variation and that is the sum total of my knowledge about it.  At least with a name though you can look it up...

I don't think it's actually called the "French Variation" as for it to be called that would require for at least one grandmaster to have referred to it by that name. It can lead to the Taimanov or the Kan Sicilians which have established names.

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baddogno a écrit :

It's called the French variation and that is the sum total of my knowledge about it.  At least with a name though you can look it up...

french variation of sicilian doesn't exist.

It's not because black plays e6 in the beginning that it is a french variation...

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the move 2...e6 itself isn't a named variation, though it leads to some of the main Sicilian lines such as the Tamainov and Kan, and can also transpose into a Sveshnikov or Scheveningen

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I think is the Paulsen variation

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The move has received several names, as a rule if black follows Nxd4 with Nc6 it is considered to be a Taimanov and if black follows with a6 instead it is called a Kan. But these two often transpose into each other so it is not clear. I like to refer to the whole e6 sicilian as the Paulsen Sicilian but that term isn't universal.

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I'm not creative enough to make stuff up guys.  It's what chess.com calls it in their Explorer.

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Sicilian Defense: French Variation

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poucin wrote:
baddogno a écrit :

It's called the French variation and that is the sum total of my knowledge about it.  At least with a name though you can look it up...

french variation of sicilian doesn't exist.

It's not because black plays e6 in the beginning that it is a french variation...

'O ye, of little faith.

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izenabizena wrote:

The move has received several names, as a rule if black follows Nxd4 with Nc6 it is considered to be a Taimanov and if black follows with a6 instead it is called a Kan. But these two often transpose into each other so it is not clear. I like to refer to the whole e6 sicilian as the Paulsen Sicilian but that term isn't universal.

That's what the Explorer has after a6 or Nc6 also.  It switches the name to either the Kan or Taimanov.  

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And for those who care:

With Qb6, it's the Kvenis Variation.

With Bc5 it's the Paulsen-Basman Defense

With Nf6 it's the Normal line (whatever normal is...)

and everything else the Explorer insists on calling the French Variation.  Yep, I'm done.

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Nf6 either leads to the scheveningen or the four knights which could transpose to the Sveshnikov. I have no idea why one would call that normal.

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baddogno a écrit :

And for those who care:

With Qb6, it's the Kvenis Variation.

With Bc5 it's the Paulsen-Basman Defense

With Nf6 it's the Normal line (whatever normal is...)

and everything else the Explorer insists on calling the French Variation.  Yep, I'm done.

If u trust everything an online explorer tells...

There are no book which gives "french variation of the sicilian".

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Look, I'm just an old patzer who likes writing and enjoys learning about chess.  I have absolutely no stake in this.  You should be disputing this with Danny Rensch, IM to IM.  That said, I did a Google search, and no, I don't believe everything I read online...LOL.

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  2. Is the "Sicilian french variation" the best variation in the Sicilian defence? Stockfish recommends pushing the e pawn.

  3. I played a standard chess game as white with my opponent playing the Sicilian Defense, Frenchvariation. My opponent surprised me as early as move 5.

  4. The Najdorf Variation is Black's most popular system in the Sicilian Defence. Najdorf's intention with 5...a6 was to prepare ...e5 on the next move to gain space in the centre.

  5. Sicilian Defense: French Variation : Brief commentary #50 : Viacheslav Ragozin vs P Noskov - 1930 ... Nd2 instead of Nc3 in Sicilian defence ... Sicilian Defense, Pin Variation ...

  6. Chess opening: French Variation, Sicilian, B40

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youtube links are untrustworthy : anybody could name (like u) this variation as french.

forum links, once again, prove nothing.

Chess.com, chess db : the same as my first comment.

Really, just play chess in real tournaments, in club : i know nobody who ever talked about french variation in sicilian, and i've never read a book where it is given as "french variation".

As told before, 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 doesn't have a name yet : we could call it Paulsen/Kan as it will probably transpose into it, but it could be Scheveninguen, Taimanov, Sveschnikov, and other creatures.

I guess 1.e4 Nf6 2.e5 Nd5 3.d4 e6 (?) would be french variation of Alekhine defence? not serious.

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ok

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@ IM Poucin:

You're right.  I'll stop posting.

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No name, can transpose to many Sicilian variations.

Kotronias labels the whole 2...e6 family of variations as "the flexible Sicilians".

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this variation is the french sicilian, But... will very usual transpose unto another line such as kan, taimanov or scheveningen... or even a proper french defence.

Having to teach this to a pair of IM player is surprising... maybe get some opening lessons?!

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Never heard about French Variation.