Simple Refutation of the Fritz Gambit

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It is just equal.....Not much else. Yes, white is completely bottled up, but if he unraveled then black is worse.

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I like this line a little better...



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It is not a recommended line because black pursues needless risk. The best lines are the safest lines.

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Do you play this line Yereslov? I would not recommend it.

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7.Kf2? Bc5+ 8.e3 Ngf6 looks like Black gets the better of it.

7.Qa4 is probably roughly equal. But Black should get an advantage after White's 1.g4.

A better try is 3...e6 4.Qb3 Ne7 where after 5.Qxb7? Nbc6 White is basically lost.

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CHCL wrote:

It is just equal.....Not much else. Yes, white is completely bottled up, but if he unraveled then black is worse.

The problem is is that white can't unravel. Black's position is just too good.

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Expertise87 wrote:

7.Kf2? Bc5+ 8.e3 Ngf6 looks like Black gets the better of it.

7.Qa4 is probably roughly equal. But Black should get an advantage after White's 1.g4.

A better try is 3...e6 4.Qb3 Ne7 where after 5.Qxb7? Nbc6 White is basically lost.

7. Qa4 is white's best try, but after 7...Be6 there seems to be no way to win.

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CHCL wrote:

I like this line a little better...

 



Interesting. Apparently that line scores even worse with engine analysis.

My line has something like 0.25+. 

Yours is 0.00-0.07- for white.

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CHCL wrote:

Do you play this line Yereslov? I would not recommend it.

I would, considering black is better.

I mean consider how insulted the opponent would be. He has a rook, but nowhere to go.

I like the psychological factor.

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Pelikan_Player wrote:

Never even heard of this gambit

That's because this opening is rarely played.

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Here is a safer and better refutation:



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All of these seem fine for black. However, how often do you encounter the Grob? :)

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Yereslov wrote:

Here is a safer and better refutation:

 



Pop Quiz : Without referring to any outside soucre, how do you answer 4.cd cd 5.Qb3? (nobody else help him)

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Mainline_Novelty wrote:
Yereslov wrote:

Here is a safer and better refutation:

 



Pop Quiz : Without referring to any outside soucre, how do you answer 4.cd cd 5.Qb3? (nobody else help him)

5. Qb3 is the best reply, so it's not exactly a blunder. The simple move 5...Nf6 works just fine.

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It's not really better for black, though. It's pretty much even:



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Actually, my line might be overall better.

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Mainline_Novelty wrote:
Yereslov wrote:

Here is a safer and better refutation:

 



Pop Quiz : Without referring to any outside soucre, how do you answer 4.cd cd 5.Qb3? (nobody else help him)

took me forever to find that don't judge lol

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Yereslov wrote:

It's not really better for black, though. It's pretty much even:

 



Yeah, I was just seeing if you'd fall for 5...e6 6.Qa4+ Tongue Out

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p-wnattack wrote:
Mainline_Novelty wrote:
Yereslov wrote:

Here is a safer and better refutation:

 



Pop Quiz : Without referring to any outside soucre, how do you answer 4.cd cd 5.Qb3? (nobody else help him)

took me forever to find that don't judge lol

Have I not showed you this trap before...Undecided