Some hyper aggressive lines against Scandinavian??

I am not going to say any one individual is wrong with the advice they have offered but what most of it does not fully appreciate is that after d5 neither 2...Qd5 or the subsequent 3....Qa5 aren't fully forced.

There exist 3...Qd6 & 3...Qd8 and yes, before any pseudo grandmasters rush off to ask their silicon & binary overlords (insert your chessbase product here) the value of these moves, there are players much better than you or or I who have tried these moves and won. Of course, the eternally skeptical & cynical out there will cry "give us games, we want proof" to wit, books by Michael Melts & Vassillios Kotronias on 3...Qd6 and a book by Daniel Lowinger on 3...Qd8 exist, you buy them.

Finally, any decent chess player is a creature of habit. They like what they like and if they play something like the Scandinavian, there is a good chance, a very good chance they would come somewhat prepared for any sort of side line or bizarre attempt to avoid the Scandinavian altogether.

To each their own. As I said none of what has been offered is right or wrong as such, you have to work out what works for you. Maybe the Blackmar Diemer is a try but I would ask, what's the point if it can be simply avoided with the French, Crappo Kann or Nimzo?

Maybe d5 2.Nc3 !?

Peace out.

1.e4, d5 2.Nc3, dxe4 3.Nxe4,Qd5

If 4.Nc3,Qa5 mainline

If 4.d3,... 4.Bd3,... 4.Qf3,... then Nc6 play

If 5.Nf6+, Nxf6 protects the queen. Even game

No, don´t do it to me. Please!

I Leonhardt was mentioned earlier,

It's not that good but if you know it you can have a strong answer to the Reversed Scandinavion , which can actually be annoying sometimes, so it's nice to have a plan...

White is better but if Black knows the plan the stats show Black does well.

3…Qa5 is the most popular Scandy line.

So that is most likely why people showed sample lines of the 3…Qa5 variation over the others.

Nevertheless, I play the same move against all 3 Queen responses you said.

4. g3 against all 3 moves

White position doesn’t care!

The only difference is in the follow up move, but White still starts off the same.

Doesn't blacks c6 makes g3 weaker, since light squared bishop won't be so aggressive then.

It's about equal...

A common theme if Black plays ...c6 White can play Rb1 and push b4 and a4

something like

IMO... Black can play 5...c6, They just have to know how to deal with White's attack on the Queenside.

Just my opinion here and I'm a Club player with limited skill.... the fact that White in the last decade has been playing more 4.g3 and 3. Nf3 lines is a tell that many at the top think Black as a lot of resources in the main lines. (A testament to The Mieses var 3...Qa5 being solid)

If you plan to play 3.g3 or 3.Nf3 plan on seeing 4...g6 I also play the Czebe Variation e.g. 4...Nf6 5.Nf3 g6 and the early g3 and Nf3 by white are moves in the main line... I can't be the only Center Counter Defense player who plays Czebe Variation.

Best of luck...

This is one of the main issues I have facing the scandinavian. There are good variations positionally for white. But when it comes to attacking variations for white, I have yet to discover something that is not objectively also bad. Black forces an extremely solid pawn structure which is hard to demolish with a kingside attack.

I see many people mentioning the Nf3 - c4 variation but I do not consider this to be an attacking variation at all. Most positions look better for white in terms of space and a slight activity advantage. But there will not be a brilliant kingside attack to finish the game.

If anybody know a forcing line in the scandinavian that I dont, I am more than willing to learn

You are correct, but that's imo the entire point of the Scandi... Black forces a non theoretical, endgame leaning (..moving towards...) position.

In many cases, it can be a heavy piece endgame which can be highly tactical and rich (4 rooks, 2 queens).

What I do is I don't look for a hyper aggressive "refutation" or targeted line to "punish" the Scandi, this approach often leads exactly to what they want, but just by understanding what Black wants, I try to keep as many pieces on the board, and keep my solid +0.5 or +1 advantage for as long as possible, and positionally outplay Black

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Of course there is no refutation to the scandinavian. There are much worse openings without a refutation.

By attacking I am not looking for a refutation, simply a variation that will clearly ensure that black will defend, and white will attack. An example is the grand prix attack against d6 sicilians. Even though it may not be the best, it is clear that white is the one attacking, and black is the one defending. I have yet to come across a scandinavian variation that ensures this.

It depends on the variation Black is playing.

In the 3…Qa5 line, White has a deadly & very clever plan.

The c6 move by Black is a Good move trying to Limit White Bishop, but White has sneaky plan to break up all the Black pawns!

White idea is to do Queen Side Attack.

Yeah I think you are again right, it doesn't exist. But from my experience if you accept an equal and positional game, and just try to outplay Black in that type of game - you have a good chance of attacking eventually... But right from the opening by trying to force that type of game you'd be playing in to their hands in a strategic sense. I think your understanding of this fact is a strength, not a weakness.

The closest thing is the Leonhardt... and Also I saw a strong player do this one... Only in faster time controls, of course:

Just asking if BDG is refuted and in "just tricks" category, or is it playable for white? I saw there "are" videos on it on YT (i.e. it must not be really bad)

Yes you can play it against the Scandinavian.

Are you comfortable playing Caro kann type positions as white?

If you are playing the BDG then bail on the main line and aim for a Caro-Kann type position...

It's Ok... but know that you are giving Black a decent variation of a Caro-Kann (FYI... this is one of the reasons I like to play the Center Counter Defense)

Example:

Although the Scandinavian Defence is rather insulting to White, one must not get carried away with thinking that the "punishment" must come quickly. Just play solidly and their house of cards will come tumbling down! Years ago, I used to let young kids take back 1...d5 and explained why I did not want to humiliate them. I only wanted to beat them but still have a respectable game. Anyway, a parent complained to the TD in the last tournament I did this and I stopped doing that. In my Chess club, if any of our guys ever play 1...d5 in match play in this league we belong to, they are "benched" for the next 2 matches even if they manage to win. We will not insult Chess onmy watch! Mic drop!

Ok... for sake of discussion

Can you show a solid line that makes Black's defense come tumbling down like a house of cards?

It's been my experience that if White can't establish an advantage in the initial phase of the opening with his tempo and in some cases space advantage, Black catches up around move 8 (give or take...) it's about equal in most lines (or.... the result is a complex position where the better prepared wins the day. (I.e. no different than any other defense) 

Certainly there are pros and cons to the Center Counter Defense...  I'm not advocating that its "all that and a bag of chips"  It's currently not a 1st tier defense, yet... it's not been refuted in anyway...

I'm not even close to a titled player, but for a club player like myself... I think it's a solid defense.