Also, I heard that the Accelerated Dragon setup is somewhat less theoretical than many other Sicilian setups. That makes a kingside fianchetto system vs. anti-sicilians viable without playing the Sicilian Dragon as my main Open Sicilian.
System against anti-Sicilians

Yes, gundamv, Accel Dragon is lighter on theory.
Yaroslavl, I'm sorry if I had a mocking tone. As gundamv pointed out, perhaps the Boleslavsky Hole is the idea you were going for.

ghostofmaroczy wrote: i play it and it works beatifully, even whrn my oppenents play the macrozy bind
Yes, gundamv, Accel Dragon is lighter on theory.
Yaroslavl, I'm sorry if I had a mocking tone. As gundamv pointed out, perhaps the Boleslavsky Hole is the idea you were going for.
Yes, gundamv, Accel Dragon is lighter on theory.
Yaroslavl, I'm sorry if I had a mocking tone. As gundamv pointed out, perhaps the Boleslavsky Hole is the idea you were going for.
I'd never heard of the Boleslavsky Wall until it came up here. Yaroslavl seemed pretty certain of what he was speaking since he specifically mentioned the c6, d6 pawn structure. I looked it up and this is a way of playing the KID, has nothing to do with the Sicilian - as people have said its virutally impossible since you've played c5 on move 1 - so I don't really understand what Yaroslavl was thinking when he made that post.

Found it here. Isn't that the old way the Sicilian was played, before people realized that a6 was a good move (after which the Sicilian Najdorf became popular)? Or am I out of my mind?
Found it here. Isn't that the old way the Sicilian was played, before people realized that a6 was a good move (after which the Sicilian Najdorf became popular)? Or am I out of my mind?
I think the Boleslavsky hole just describes the hole on d5 when the c-pawn is traded off and black plays d6 and e5, regardless of whether a6 has been played. So it occurs in the mainline Najdorf and also in a number of other Sicilian variations for example the Sveshnikov.
I think you are right that there are some older Sicilian lines with d6 and e5 without a6 that are no longer used.
Kalashnikov as well.
Yeah and there are others too but I think the main ones have been covered. I can't help but think that the Najdorf is probably the "correct" way to play the Sicilian in an objective sense. Its results for black would certainly seem to indicate this, although the theory is so enourmous now that many people are put off (including me).
gundamv wrote:
Also, I heard that the Accelerated Dragon setup is somewhat less theoretical than many other Sicilian setups. That makes a kingside fianchetto system vs. anti-sicilians viable without playing the Sicilian Dragon as my main Open Sicilian.
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You have figured out what part of the setup (system) that you are looking for is. However, exercise great caution concerning the Dragon Cue and the St. George Attack. Look up the Symagin System.
Another important factor to keep in mind is that the Maroczy Bind gives White a slight dark square weakness that Black can exploit.

The Boleslavsky Hole concept is originally derived from a specific opening line. 1 e4 c5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 d4 cxd4 4 Nxd4 Nf6 5 Nc3 d6 In the Classical Sicilian, players used to go 6 Be2. Then, Isaac Boleslavsky came up with 6...e5 which equalizes immediately. 6 Be2 is not aggressive enough. Boleslavsky's idea is often given as a major example of developments in the Soviet School of Chess. Click the link in my text.

TheGreatOogieBoogie wrote:
GMVillads wrote:
I am just joking:-) But it is quite annoying that You can not play 3. Bb5 after 2... e6 or 2...g6
You CAN, but it won't be good, you'll just effectively be playing a 1.a3 opening as black
Actually I have alredy played 1. a3 in a serious 1 hour game in a tournament!
@ Yaroslavl, did you mean ...d6 and ...e5 instead? The Boleslavsky Hole (i.e. the one that appears in the 6 Be2 variation of the Najdorf)? Because as ThrillerFan pointed out, ...c5 is already played in the Sicilian as the very first move, so it is very difficult to get a ...c6 + ...d6 pawn structure in the Sicilian.
I don't plan to play the Dragon as my Open Sicilian. I play the Najdorf. However, against the anti-Sicilians, I am out of my book anyways, so I don't mind adopting a kingside fianchetto system against anti-Sicilians. I can see that there could be move order issues such as White later playing Nf3 + d4, but with many of the anti-Sicilians, White is already committed to one plan or another (e.g. kingside pawn storm in GPA, central control in Alapin). So, White might not be able to transpose into an Open Sicilian easily.