The Evans Gambit? question

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chessteenager

On a video on youtube it says that the Evans gambit though it has many traps is actually great for black and if black knows his lines then it will be very hard for white to even gain equality is that true?

Doggy_Style

No.

pfren

What "even get equality" means?

The Evans is 100% sound, but it's not your everyday gambit: it requires both good positional understanding, and being tactically alert. Most gambiteers hate these things, they mostly hope catching their fish in a cheap trap.

Doggy_Style

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chesscollection?cid=1003431

OldHastonian

Well, some really helpful comments  here so far.

If I was a chess teenager I'd expect better from the older fraternity, especially the titled contingent, who can't even be bothered to quote the OP's post correctly.

In English, there is a difference between "gain" and "get" and every gambit requires being "tactically alert', factly Frown

Doggy_Style

Oh, I think that the link showing that Tal, Fischer, Kasparov et al have played the Evans Gambit successfully, pretty much speaks for itself.

 

I suppose it's just possible that had they looked on youtube, they might have been educated.

OldHastonian

I posted before your third contribution, but come on, let's encourage the chess youth; there's more than enough youtube in their lives already!

mauriciolopezsr

The Evans Gambit is NOT an aponing that You play to "equalize"; it leads to very sharp lines where the slightest inacuracy usually results in a mating attack. Whomever plays the Evans is going for the "throat" and the last thought in his mind is looking for "equality"!

chessteenager

True Mauriciolopezs thats a good point. Than you pfren but is sound the word to use i mean? its pretty viscous and sacraficial. When i think of the word sound i think of an opening that is fitting to opening and middlegame principles lol. OldHastonian is it playable though or is it simply just too risky? Id really like to add it to my rep

bronsteinitz

Hahaha.. If you want to play it, just play it and practise it and study it, so you play it better than your opponent. Go for it !

Canutus
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chessteenager
bronsteinitz wrote:

Hahaha.. If you want to play it, just play it and practise it and study it, so you play it better than your opponent. Go for it !

Best advise ever!

tigergutt

like pfren said above its 100% sound so its playableTongue Out

moonnie

On the DVD serie on e5 GM Gustafsson states that opposed to the kingsgambit the evans gambit is actually very dangerous. While gets 3 tempi,  a strong center and openlines for the pawn and that is adaquate compensation

pfren

Gusti is right. The Evans IS dangerous, both sides involved, half-tactical, half-positional, and quite demanding.

IMO Black can play 4...Bb6 if he wants to avoid too much theory, which is very close to equal (if not totally equal).

tigergutt

Ops i posted to quick. Sound and safe is not the same thing:) sound means that you get so much for the pawnsacrifice that its worth it even if black knows what he is doing

NimzoRoy

It's a genuine gambit, like the Kings Gambit and unlike the Queens Gambit. White is really sacking a pawn with no guarantee of ever getting it back, much less getting it back under favorable coditions. Black's main "problem" is about the same as his/her main "problem" in the Kings Gambit - namely choosing one from among several good defensive lines that either hold the pawn with advantage, or return the pawn while saddling White with an inferior position (such as Lasker's Defense for instance)

BUT it is a sound albeit dangerous opening - there is no definitive refutation.

mauriciolopezsr
chessteenager wrote:

True Mauriciolopezs thats a good point. Than you pfren but is sound the word to use i mean? its pretty viscous and sacraficial. When i think of the word sound i think of an opening that is fitting to opening and middlegame principles lol. OldHastonian is it playable though or is it simply just too risky? Id really like to add it to my rep

Both Fischer and Shirov played the Evans gambit with success; perhaps you should look at some of his games; No question it has fire and you need nerves of steel to play the Evans gambit; I would suggest also to take a look at some of the old games of Andersen, He also play some wonderful games; but with some help of his opponents, nonetheless are very nice games!
NimzoRoy

Both Fischer and Shirov played the Evans gambit with success;  mauriciolopezsr

Bobby Fischer NEVER played the Evans Gambit in a serious game! He does include 2 games with it in My 60 Memorable Games - one is a skittles game vs a very rusty Dr Fine and the other is from a simul

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chesscollection?cid=1003431

pfren

You can also add Shirov, who has played the Evans only once in his whole career (against Timman, some 18 years ago).

Mentioning players at random doesn't help at all, does it?