The f5 Opening

  • #261

    Just played a new variation where white plays 4. d3

     

    Haven't analyzed that line at all and it seems a slight edge for white, but black may be able to eventually hold a draw by applying a lot of preassure on white's king, depending on where white's king decides to reside (center, king's side, or queen's side)

  • #262

    Why are there 2 threads of this opening...

  • #263
  • #264
    Jion_Wansu wrote:

    I played this opening in a 24 hour per move time control:

    http://www.chess.com/echess/game?id=81825792

    Amusing finish, obviously what you were going for when you threw your extra Rook away.

  • #265

    According to lichess, the official name of this opening is the Duras Gambit, General.

     

    On that site I've played it the most:

    Duras Gambit, General: Played 11 times
    Charlick Gambit: Played 4 times
    Sicilian Defence, Smith-Morra Gambit: Played 4 times
    Danish Gambit, Accepted: Played 3 times
    Dutch Defence, General: Played 3 times
    Scandinavian Defence, General: Played 2 times
    Bishop's Opening, General: Played 1 time
    Bishop's Opening, Lewis Gambit: Played 1 time
    Danish Gambit, General: Played 1 time
    Englund Gambit Complex, Soller Gambit: Played 1 time
    Englund Gambit, Declined, Reverse French: Played 1 time
    French Defence, Normal Variation: Played 1 time
    Horwitz Defense, General: Played 1 time
    Hungarian Opening, General: Played 1 time
    King Pawn Game, Beyer Gambit: Played 1 time
    King Pawn Game, Busch-Gass Gambit: Played 1 time
    Lion Defence, Lion's Jaw: Played 1 time
    Modern Defence, King Pawn Fianchetto: Played 1 time
    Nimzo-Larsen Attack, Dutch Variation: Played 1 time
    Owen Defence, General: Played 1 time
    Queen Pawn Game, Veresov Attack: Played 1 time
    Queen Pawn Opening, General: Played 1 time
    Queen's Gambit Declined, Baltic Defence, Queen Attack: Played 1 time
    Sicilian Defence, General: Played 1 time
    Trompowsky Attack, Edge Variation: Played 1 time
    Van't Kruijs Opening, General: Played 1 time
    Vienna Game, Anderssen Defence: Played 1 time

     

     

    http://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/lichess2

  • #266

    Well...amazingly, so many have so, so, much to say about this very strange one, I guess I'll add my quibble to the dribble. Surprisingly, this gambit is more than playable and proves several adages. 1) Pieces beat pawns 2) developing pieces surpass capturing pawns. 3) Gambiteers are more important than gambits...and... most importantly You've got to go through it to get to it!

    I would never play this: multiple pawn gambits are just not for me. If I were on the other side, I wouldn't even take the first one, unless I had to. Pieces move faster than pawns!

  • #267

    The Colorado gambit is less unsound with the same idea: 1.e4 Nc6 2.Nf3 f5 White plays 2.Nf3 to avoid some trappy lines in the Nimzovich defence.

  • #268

    correct

  • #269

    but these days no one play max lange attack and kotlan wiski varition

  • #270

    I don't understand. On the black side if the numbers are a + are they bad or good? Stockfish, in this game had a lot of + for black's moves:

     

    http://en.lichess.org/oqDqmnG4/black#56

  • #271

    And he's back - the guy who put the POS into "Positional".

  • #272
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  • #273

    ...

  • #274

    white!

  • #275

    There's this:

     

    [Site "Chess.com iPhone"]
    [Date "01/12/2017 04:56PM"]
    [White "Computer (Level 10) (0)"]
    [Black "Computer (Level 10) (0)"]

    1.e4 f5 2.exf5 g6 3.fxg6 Nf6 4.gxh7 Rxh7 5.Bd3 Rg7 6.Be2 d6 7.Bh5 Nxh5 8.Qxh5 Kd7 9.Ne2 c6 10.d3 Kc7 11.Bg5 Nd7 12.Nbc3 Nf6 13.Bxf6 exf6 14.O-O d5 15.Nf4 Bd6 16.Qf3 Qg8 17.Nfxd5 cxd5 18.Nb5 Kc6 19.Nxd6 Kxd6 20.Rfe1 Be6 21.g3 Re8 22.Qf4 Kd7 23.Qa4 Ke7 24.Re3 Kf8 25.Qd4 Rge7 26.Qxf6 Qf7 27.Qh8 Qg8 28.Qf6 Bf7 29.Rf1 Qg7 30.Qd6 Qg6 31.Qa3 Qa6 32.Qxa6 bxa6 33.Rfe1 Rc7 34.Rxe8 Bxe8 35.c3 d4 36.c4 Bg6 37.Rd1 Re7 38.Rd2 Bh5 39.Kf1 Bg4 40.h4 Bh3 41.Kg1 Re1 42.Kh2 Bg4 43.Kg2 Re2 44.Rxe2 Bxe2 45.f4 Bxd3 46.b3 Bb1 47.a3 Bc2 48.Kf3 Bxb3 49.Ke4 Bxc4 50.Kxd4 Be2 51.f5 Bd1 52.Ke3 Kg7 53.Kf4 Kh6 54.g4 a5 55.g5 Kg7 56.f6 Kg6 57.Ke5 Bb3 58.Kf4 Bd1 59.Ke5 Bb3 60.Kf4 Bd1

  • #276

    This is called Duras Gambit - Bavarian Attack

  • #277

    Not the Sprotnik Maneouvre?

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