thx guys
The Fred(gambit)
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finns wrote:
Post your suggestions for defences against the Fred(e4 f5)
Kill it. Kill it with fire!
lololololololololololololol
Just to point out, to be played the right way the Fred should not follow with 2... Nf6 but with ... Kf7.
Cogwheel wrote:
Transpose it to the Staunton gambit with e4.
lol
pellik wrote:
You don't defend against this crap you attack against it. Black is the one defending with the Fred. White openings are not defenses.
2.exf5 Nf6 3.d4 and black has a long term problem with his e pawn, comprimised king safety, and nothing to look forward to but suffering.
Whatever you do don't play 3. Be2?? instead and allow Fred's Bongcloud variation
Jun 2, 2013
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mvc4hphp wrote:
pellik wrote:
You don't defend against this crap you attack against it. Black is the one defending with the Fred. White openings are not defenses.
2.exf5 Nf6 3.d4 and black has a long term problem with his e pawn, comprimised king safety, and nothing to look forward to but suffering.
Whatever you do don't play 3. Be2?? instead and allow Fred's Bongcloud variation
I guess the GMs can stop trying to find advantage against the sicilian, since in the future everyone will play your novelty 4.. Kd7!!, with clear equality. Maybe the improvement for white is at 1. e4, which should be changed to f4!!, with the obvious idea 1. f4 e5 2. d3!! exf4 3. Kd2!! with clear advantage
ColtronPence wrote:
Just to point out, to be played the right way the Fred should not follow with 2... Nf6 but with ... Kf7.
what is good about Kf7? It stops you from castling.
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The Kf7 line is so bad it's unreal.
Cogwheel wrote:
Transpose it to the Staunton gambit with e4.
your pawn is already on e4 lol
Aug 9, 2013
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pellik wrote:
You don't defend against this crap you attack against it. Black is the one defending with the Fred. White openings are not defenses.
2.exf5 Nf6 3.d4 and black has a long term problem with his e pawn, comprimised king safety, and nothing to look forward to but suffering.
+1
There was recently another thread about "TheFred"; I don't know if there is a fever about The Fred, hope it is not contagious
Aug 9, 2013
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Scottrf wrote:
The Kf7 line is so bad it's unreal.
No, it is a real one, I've been researching about this "Fred" thing, Kf7 appears often as an option for black (edit, well not as the second movement)
pdela wrote:
Scottrf wrote:
The Kf7 line is so bad it's unreal.
No, it is a real one, I've been researching about this "Fred" thing, Kf7 appears often as an option for black
I mean, it's lost on move 2. Unreal isn't meant literally.
Often? How many games can you show? We have one here where I think black was drunk, and one on chessgames where black gets mated in 10 moves to someone not looking at the board.
The Crap defense thread alive again.
Aug 9, 2013
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I had edited it because: frankly, I didn't imagine the Kf7 line featured Kf7 as the second move
Aug 9, 2013
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#18
@Scottfr_The Great
but as a matter of fact is between the lines:
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Chess_Opening_Theory/1._e4/1...f5
last paragraph
cheers amigo
ViktorHNielsen wrote:
mvc4hphp wrote:
pellik wrote:
You don't defend against this crap you attack against it. Black is the one defending with the Fred. White openings are not defenses.
2.exf5 Nf6 3.d4 and black has a long term problem with his e pawn, comprimised king safety, and nothing to look forward to but suffering.
Whatever you do don't play 3. Be2?? instead and allow Fred's Bongcloud variation
I guess the GMs can stop trying to find advantage against the sicilian, since in the future everyone will play your novelty 4.. Kd7!!, with clear equality. Maybe the improvement for white is at 1. e4, which should be changed to f4!!, with the obvious idea 1. f4 e5 2. d3!! exf4 3. Kd2!! with clear advantage
Why don't u just play 1.d3 f.b. 2.Kd2 (LOL!)
Post your suggestions for defences against the Fred(e4 f5)