The opening that fooled the world

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rk12387

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_hoaxes_on_Wikipedia/Ruy_Lopez,_Hopkins_Gambit

Wikipedia recently deleted a long-standing article about a chess opening. Why? because it didn't exist!  However, I was thinking about it, and the moves themselves certainly do exist.  And looking at the analysis from the WP article, it doesn't even seem that terrible. I mean it's bad, but not that bad.  So what do you think? How would you analyze this "opening"?

 



adamplenty

The line exists, so why not give it a name?

Chessman265

Yes, it is already named the hopkin's gambit. If you really want a new opening, try 

It is named the Daeth Tarp, and it is the most unexpicted opining you ever could pull on somebody.

Chessman265
fla2lens wrote:
Chessman265 wrote:

*snip* It is named the Daeth Tarp, and it is the most unexpicted opining you ever could pull on somebody.

beautiful :)

You missed Tarp bro :)

adamplenty

There's no mention of the Hopkins Gambit of the chess.com opening database (I searched for C77). Unless it's also known by another name?

adamplenty

Apparantley the person who this opening was named after never existed either:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_hoaxes_on_Wikipedia/Richard_Hopkins_%28chess_player%29

bean_Fischer

Sort of Berlin.

csalami10

That move is very bad, a big strategical mistake. After Bc5 black is much better, and you cannot play for d4. And the knight that you would place on d5 will probably have to retreat after c6.

dashkee94

I wouldn't waste much time on this line, but there is a line in the Ruy called the Duras (Duras Attack?--Variation? I'm not sure) where white plays an early c4, but it's not that dangerous for black.  And I doubt that you would ever see either line in your career.

adamplenty

I notice that information on the Hopkins Gambit is all over the internet. Do these sites always use Wikipedia as their main source of information? This is not the first time that I know of that a mystery has been created because of misinformation (disinformation maybe? both the above Wikipedia articles have references, so it's probably misinformation rather than disinformation, unless it's a very elaborate hoax indeed) put on Wikipedia. If anyone can put any old thing on Wikipedia, it's no wonder using that as your main source of information is frowned upon by Universities. Are people starting to over-rely on Wikipedia?

adamplenty

There's a fake chess trap too:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_hoaxes_on_Wikipedia/Ruy_Lopez,_Marshall_Attack,_Rombaua_Trap

kiwi-inactive

I've never seen that opening sequence before, not sure if its an officially recognized one, hopefully a titled player can clear this up. 

EmberGerlach

Where did the illustrative games come from?

VeeDeeVee

This will shock the world

 



Sqod

It's obviously related to that well-known opening called The Whale. Smile

Source:

Schiller, Eric. 1998. Unorthodox Chess Openings. Cooper Station, New York: Cardoza Publishing. Page 143.

adumbrate
not really as we already have transfered our knight to the other side