Generally in QP openings, white , and black should play c4/5 before placing thier knight on c3
The Queenside Fried Liver
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Yes, but who says that everyone must follow those rules? After Nb5, white is free to move their c-pawn as they please, and has also crippled black's position 
Apr 18, 2012
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#84
yes, but now white has moved two pieces in the opening, and no sane person would allow the fork on c7 so it iis pretty much nullified bvy sanity and a little thing i like to call commmon sense
jetfighter13 wrote:
yes, but now white has moved two pieces in the opening, and no sane person would allow the fork on c7 so it iis pretty much nullified bvy sanity and a little thing i like to call commmon sense
"Common sense" is what we might call the faculty that would alert you to stop arguing with somebody who is clearly yanking your chain after five pages.
So what you are trying to tell me is it's bad to move out pieces in the opening, you must alert the chess community! We have all been living a lie, thinking we must develop our pieces in the opening!
Johnny gawian, if you think this opening is a joke you are obviously not avery good player, but in fact, complete and utter garbage. You must be mad because you havent come up with an opening as brilliant as this one. I will say it again, the qsfl is the key to becoming a gm.
Apr 18, 2012
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#88
oops I meant moved a piece twice in the opening, oops need to get a faster computer
jetfighter you are garbage anyway. This opening would destroy anyone easily played decently, especially you.
Still, so what? I have superior position, no matter what they play.
I use this opening all the time I dominate USCF 1800+ with it. The only reason my rating is not so high is that sometimes I have to play as black :(
whatupyodog, do you want to play a game? I want to prove that this opening is a piece of crap.my rating is lower than your's.
wuhw, why would he do that? If he wins, you will clain he did it off of skill and the opening had nothing to do with it. If you win, than you will call the opening crappy anyways. I know how people like you operate. Either way you will just diss whatupyodog, because you are jealous of our wonderful opening idea.
quak, on the other hand, has the right idea.
I don't see sarcasm anywhere on this page, unless you are being sarcastic?
Apr 19, 2012
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#96
QSFL being the one stop shop to GM.... please tell me this is Sarcasm and not serious. Because a person is not obligated to play a double QP opening, and no one is obligated to follow the system, andy sane person would relize that after d6 or c6 the magic is lost on this variation, and black has a fairly easy game afterwards
Someone just stated that he beats USCF 1800+ players with this, so I don't think that was very sarcastic at all.
jetfighter13 wrote:
QSFL being the one stop shop to GM.... please tell me this is Sarcasm and not serious. Because a person is not obligated to play a double QP opening, and no one is obligated to follow the system, andy sane person would relize that after d6 or c6 the magic is lost on this variation, and black has a fairly easy game afterwards
Who is Andy Sane is he a grandmaster?
That's funny Adv, I don't recall the basic opening principles saying that you should develop your knight so it blocks your bishop in, I think Nc3, opening up your position and allowing your pieces to develop is much better. If black wants to have none of its pieces develop by playing c6 and Nd7, then go ahead, but I'm pretty certain it is better for your pieces to be allowed to develop so you can attack your enemy.
Tactic, in your first line your bishop becomes trapped in a corner, practically useless. In your second line, white can just take the hanging c pawn from move two. Neither are very good in my humble opinion.