This Is Why You Should NEVER Use The Alekhine's Defense, Mokele Mbembe

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ChessCholo

A very bad variation of the Alekhine's Defense and this game illustrates the dangers it can lead to, including getting both your knights stuck in one corner of the board.

ivandh

I beg your pardon?

PrawnEatsPrawn
ivandh wrote:

I beg your pardon?


Alekhine's Defence has been refuted, surely that is obvious.

MJ-effect

Black played badly though, eg 11... g5??

mateologist
Nice attacking play, but a stronger opponent would have made white's task much more difficult ! lol
easylimbo

on move 2 why not d4 followed by f3? seriously you missed a dozen opportunities the capture the knight. alekhine defense isn't even too bad. i've seen some great draws and even a black win now and then. 

BBostrom

The Alekhine Is Perfectly Fine, This is just a really bad variation. the modern line works out pretty well, along with other variants where the knight goes to ...2Ne6.

BBostrom

Yeah, I love openings such as the alekhine, but this was played poorly.

e4nf3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCBRC14FK_Y

erikido23

this is why u should never assess an opening based on a beginners game

ivandh
PrawnEatsPrawn wrote:
ivandh wrote:

I beg your pardon?


Alekhine's Defence has been refuted, surely that is obvious.


BBostrom

It shouldnt be refuted, it's only refuted because so many people play it wrong.

BirdsDaWord

People regularly refute my poorly played openings too.

BBostrom

Lol, This topic is just silly to me.

david1806

For what it's worth, which is pretty much nothing as my expertise on openings is zilch (I'm a beginner), I came to this page by Googling Alekhine Defense\Mokele Mbembe Variation.  Reason being, while I was browsing through Chessmaster (the PC programme) openings database of the Alekhine Defense, it got to the Ne4 move, and this is what the annotation said: "Black is gonna die! After 3.d4! f6 4.Bd3 d5 5.f3! Ng56.Bxg5 fxg5 7.f4! (Black's position is a disgusting mess)  7...g6! (the only try)."....so I just had to Google it and see what why it felt so strongly!!  Also, the Wiki entry for Alekhine also states that this variation is "very dubious"......so I think the challenge is on for a black player to use this variation - and win!!!

JoeTheV

This game does not really demonstrate the true weaknesses of Alekhine's Defense, since you played against a beginner who did very poorly.  In my opinion, the best way to refute this provacative opening by Black is to check out the game Short-Timman in 1991, where an outrageous king march by Short crushes Alekhine's Defense.

ViktorHNielsen

"any opening can be played, as long your opponent think it's bad!" Bent Larsen

AutisticCath
BirdsDaWord
newengland7 wrote:
 

 You know, if you are going to share a line, you should at least check it for tactical errors.  The obvious 11...g6! busts your entire plan.  What do you intend to play at that point?

Honestly, I was a little retrospect on your analysis from ...Nxc3, as Alekhine did not play that against Lasker.  Granted, that was a LONG time ago, but why give up your only developed piece?  Better is Alekhine's ...d6, I would think.

Honestly, looking more at things, it looks you are setting Black up for failure, ON PURPOSE, to try to prove a point.  7...d6 - although this is not losing per se, it still gives White that nice diagonal aimed at f7, and there is no knight to help defend the kingside.  Fritz is saying that ...e6 is slightly better, so it is worth discussing as well.  Granted, the backward d-pawn doesn't look great, but perhaps Black can overcome that...but even then, this is a moot point.  

No matter what, take a look at 10. Bxf7?? Kxf7 11. Qh5+ g6! - White is totally busted. 

AutisticCath

TBH, I don't really put these lines in to prove a point at all but merely for entertainment purposes and self-amusement.