Vacuous really, I think it is vacuous to say that..

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...to claim that an opening is a "dutch defense" just because eventually (and not early on) black plays ...f5.   It really is simply vacuous to think such a thing, as in empty headed and perhaps lunkheaded.  Just my opinion.  What say you?

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...after all just because white plays Bb5 in an opening, say on move 11 of an e4 opening doesn't make it a Ruy Lopez/spanish game.

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polydiatonic wrote:

...after all just because white plays Bb5 in an opening, say on move 11 of an e4 opening doesn't make it a Ruy Lopez/spanish game.


It's simply vacuous to think so...

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What the...?

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Indeed, quite vacuous.

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Thank you, I'm glad I'm not all alone there.

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AbelFinkenbinder wrote:

What the...?


letting you in on the joke:

http://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/never-play-the-dutch-again

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I've seen the thread.  Just wondering why a response to another thread, out of context, and personal in nature, merited its own thread.

Maybe send the guy a letter or something.

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Dueds its hella vacuous ovah der.

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AbelFinkenbinder wrote:

I've seen the thread.  Just wondering why a response to another thread, out of context, and personal in nature, merited its own thread.

Maybe send the guy a letter or something.


I can't do that because he blocked me after I told him that his "discovery" was  not, in fact, a "dutch defense".  So, since I can't tell him directly I thought I'd let everybody talk about it until he noticed.  Honestly just have a little fun ;)

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I'm just saying to be name oneself, quite happily and apparently sarcastically, as "vacuous" and then to actually be quite vacuous has simply created some cognitive dissonance for me that I'm working out, with your help here on this thread. 

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So you want him to change his name?

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poly, totally agreed.  I tried to discuss the real Dutch with him, which he totally dismissed.  Funny, I think I play the Dutch quite often:

movegameswhite wins / draw / black wins
1...f5 48
52.1%   43.8%
1...Nf6 5
20%   80%
1...d5 1  a_flight_of_stairs - BirdBrain (2011)
1...e6 1  qtsii - BirdBrain (2008)
1...Nc6 1  MsCloyescapade - BirdBrain (2009)

http://cssjs.chesscomfiles.com/images/icons/custom/cgames.png); background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: 0px 50%; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat;">View all games from current position
I think I might have a pretty good idea of what is Dutch, dontcha think?!?  ;-)
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trysts wrote:

So you want him to change his name?


hehe, not really as I'm having a little fun with it thanks to you guys :)

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BirdBrain wrote:

poly, totally agreed.  I tried to discuss the real Dutch with him, which he totally dismissed.  Funny, I think I play the Dutch quite often:

movegameswhite wins / draw / black wins 1...f5 48 52.1%   43.8% 1...Nf6 5 20%   80% 1...d5 1  a_flight_of_stairs - BirdBrain (2011) 1...e6 1  qtsii - BirdBrain (2008) 1...Nc6 1  MsCloyescapade - BirdBrain (2009)

 

http://cssjs.chesscomfiles.com/images/icons/custom/cgames.png); background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: 0px 50%; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat;">View all games from current position
I think I might have a pretty good idea of what is Dutch, dontcha think?!?  ;-)

Yes, I think you know how the dutch goes :)

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It was good enough for Botvinick and Alhekine

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Since there is an english opening, french, spanish game, etc...I wonder if there is any opening that might be considered an "american" opening or defence?

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america just takes openings and then renames them.  like the freedom defence 1. e4 e6.

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planeden wrote:

america just takes openings and then renames them.  like the freedom defence 1. e4 e6.


I thought it was the "fried freedom defence".  But that's a joke, right?  :)

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Godspawn wrote: Its vicerally Vacuous!! "........ ......... Good one!