Vienna Gambit (accepted)

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Dentangle

I just faced an interesting response to the Vienna Gambit accepted which I wasn't expecting, and which nearly (and should have) cost me the game on move 6:

1. e4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. f4 exf4 4. e5 Ng8 5. Nf3 g5 6. Bc4 g4

According to the engine, 6 ... g4 attacking the knight is black's best try, but I'd never faced this before.

Here, white is +1.27, but only if white realises that defending the knight is unnecessary. The best move is to ignore the attack and push d4 or simply castle. If black takes, white has a +1.8 advantage and can quickly scoop up black's pawns and have a huge lead in development.

I tried to save the knight, and this is losing for white (-2.57 !) (I won my game in the end, but I really shouldn't have).

Fear not the pawn on g4!

MichalMalkowski

Well, it is well known, that in Vienna gambit accepted some typical kings gambit ideas work great for white rather then fall short of their target. as in KG. Muzio Gambit should be winning, same for algaier gambit.

I don't really know what is black's best course in vienna gambit accepted ( black schouldn't have accepted first palce !), but it definettaly isn't  5. ...g5. He schould not continue in spirit of kings gambit, as the extra developed knight, and white's control of f6 make HUGE difference.

Dentangle
MichalMalkowski wrote:

Well, it is well known, that in Vienna gambit accepted some typical kings gambit ideas work great for white rather then fall short of their target. as in KG. Muzio Gambit should be winning, same for algaier gambit.

I don't really know what is black's best course in vienna gambit accepted ( black schouldn't have accepted first palce !), but it definettaly isn't  5. ...g5. He schould not continue in spirit of kings gambit, as the extra developed knight, and white's control of f6 make HUGE difference.

Interesting. I have no experience in the Kings Gambit, so I must look up some of those lines. Thanks for the tip. As you say, black shouldn't have accepted in the first place, but at my level (1186 rapid) the most common move is to accept.

Dentangle

For anyone else interested:

King's Gambit Accepted: Muzio Gambit

King's Gambit Accepted: Allgaier Gambit

DasBurner

sacrificing the knight on f3 with 0-0 looks really good because the main defensive move of the Muzio, qf6 is taken away from black because of white's move e5. It seems like a free attack

 

 

darkunorthodox88
MichalMalkowski wrote:

Well, it is well known, that in Vienna gambit accepted some typical kings gambit ideas work great for white rather then fall short of their target. as in KG. Muzio Gambit should be winning, same for algaier gambit.

I don't really know what is black's best course in vienna gambit accepted ( black schouldn't have accepted first palce !), but it definettaly isn't  5. ...g5. He schould not continue in spirit of kings gambit, as the extra developed knight, and white's control of f6 make HUGE difference.

if black accepts which he definitely shoudnt,  he should play ng8, d6 and dxe5. Black is worse already and his position feels like he is a one move slip from disaster but played very careful, he can hold with an inferior position.