What are the best openings to get a closed position?

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algorab
Estragon wrote:

Agreed.  If a player is more concerned with closing the position than fighting for advantage with the best possible move, his opponent will sense this and exploit it.


 AFAIK in the Stonewall sooner or later often you'll have to pawnstorm the kingside so the fight is only postponed not avoided

eHarmony

Why don't you grow a pair, and open up the position?

algorab
eHarmony wrote:

Why don't you grow a pair, and open up the position?


 And who the fk are you ethiopian dude Laughing ?

DrSpudnik
eHarmony wrote:

Why don't you grow a pair, and open up the position?


+1

algorab
DrSpudnik wrote:
eHarmony wrote:

Why don't you grow a pair, and open up the position?


+1


Honestly Mr Spudnik i tought you were more polite. I posted because  I was looking for info who cares about your psycological insights , maybe these are informations that could be useful to others  Regards

karikal

Studying Petrosyan's collection of games is the only way to learn close openings and what to do if your opponent succeeds to make it semi-open!

DrSpudnik

Study Fischer's semi-final match against Petrosian to see how trying to keep positions closed only leads to heartache.

Chess4001

the problem with the caro-kann is that white can choose what style to go through. this is a major drawback so caro-kann players must be ready and well prepared.

iotengo

Against 1.d4 you could try the Old Benoni (1...c5), which in my experience rarely fails to offer a closed position, however it can be very easy to tie yourself up in knots if you can't find a good way of developing you dark-squared bishop.

helltank

The Sicilian, Closed Ruy Lopez and French Defence are good ways to get a closed position.

With the Sicilian and Ruy Lopez, your opponent can easily get a closed position, however, he just as easily can force an open one, so it's 50-50 if you're playing on the internet. OTB, you'll have to judge based on the person's temperament.

With the French Defence, most likely you'll get:

1)The Advance Variation, which is a closed position and often leads to attacks on opposite sides of the board as the pieces are unable to effectively attack each other.

2)The Exchange Variation, which is very unlikely to morph into a closed position unless both of you mutually want it. Then again, if the other guy wants a closed position, he probably would have played the Advance anyway.

3)A pileup of defensive pieces situated in and around the centre. It has great potential to start a chain reaction of exchanges which will blast the board into a wide open position, but if nobody is willing to make a move, then it turns into a closed one.

ekavin

maybe the advanced french

Zima2
That match is one of my favorite

 

Lloyd99984
The black lion (as black) works well for me and often leads to very closed positions
DrSpudnik

The Black Lion?

Colin20G

The french exchange is already a boring, closed position. What are you complaining about OP?

chamo2074

MOST positions can easilly open up

Colin20G
pfren wrote:
Colin20G έγραψε:

The french exchange is already a boring, closed position. What are you complaining about OP?

Actually the exchange French gives a fully open line as early as move three- but I think your question will surely get the proper answer from someone that closed his account 4 years ago.

The thing is, while the e-file is open, you cannot really exploit it as white unless black allows it.  Playing this as white is like playing against d4 as black... You never develop any piece unless you know tons of specific memorized lines so I felt it would suit OP tastes (assuming he was still there of course).

 

I know a couple of old dudes who start the game as white with d4 exclusively and actively avoid any action and when they face e4, they pick the french.

ThrillerFan
Colin20G wrote:
pfren wrote:
Colin20G έγραψε:

The french exchange is already a boring, closed position. What are you complaining about OP?

Actually the exchange French gives a fully open line as early as move three- but I think your question will surely get the proper answer from someone that closed his account 4 years ago.

The thing is, while the e-file is open, you cannot really exploit it as white unless black allows it.  Playing this as white is like playing against d4 as black... You never develop any piece unless you know tons of specific memorized lines so I felt it would suit OP tastes (assuming he was still there of course).

 

I know a couple of old dudes who start the game as white with d4 exclusively and actively avoid any action and when they face e4, they pick the french.

 

This has got to be the most moronic and asinine thing I have every heard in my life about the French Defense.

Avoid Action?  SHEESH!  You are clueless if you think the French avoids action.  While I lost the following game yesterday (missing a win in time trouble), you can't even begin to tell me that there is no action here.

 

The entire game is utter insanity!  More action than you'd EVER get in a Dragon or Najdorf!  Anybody that says the French lacks action, or the French is dull, or anything of the like is utterly clueless about the French, probably know nothing about the French beyond the first couple of moves, probably plays the Exchange Variation as White if they ever face it, and have no business uttering such nonsense!

 

Oh, and I might add, with one no-show, everyone had a bye 1 round, and so while I had a bye in round 1, the following game in the second round was with another opening that isn't exactly stereotyped as being wild, but once again, check for yourself!  Those that stereotype any opening as dull completely lack imagination in chess!

 

 

chamo2074

It all depends on the lines chosen never talk aout an opening in general... Also yeah those who think the french is crap and passive and what and what not and dyadyadyada you never even knew a 5 move variation in it

sndeww

Czech benoni!!!!!!1!!!!!!!1!1!1!!1