what do you play after 1.d4

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pfren
SwimmerBill wrote:
pfren wrote:

 

My game with Kostas (Tsarouhas) from that open in Cyprus last year is dreadful:

Black got a very comfortable equality around move 13, and then he (...which is read as "I") played all sort of nonsense to get a totally hopeless pawn-down ending, which somehow white failed to convert.

And of course the Schara cannot be a repertoire opening: it is applicable only against 3.Nc3.

 Can you comment on the line with Na6-c5 that I see most playing today vs the older line with Nc6, Bc5 Qe7 OOO and g5 ??

Thanks--- Bill

 

The line with ...Na6-c5 is fairly new, and has caught on after proper engine scrutinization. It only happens when White's Queen retreats to b3 after being kicked with Nf6. I think it's excellent, and gives Black equality.

The lines with ...0-0-0 on the other hand are aggressive, but unsound. Castling short is a better option in the classical Schara setups. The ...0-0 lines were partly revived when it was discovered that Black can afford dropping a bishop for "nothing", as in the following game (where Black was doing fine until he blundered at move 33, where 33...b6 was safe and sound).

And another thing is that in the Qd1 lines, the new trend is playing ...Bc5 and ...0-0 without yet moving the b8 knight, as in a certain line controlling the a4 square with the d7 bishop is an important finesse, because he retains the possibility of ...Qb6 without having to worry about Nc3-a4. See the following ame, where this detail is illustrated:

Some new sources on the gambit are two Chessable courses, as well as a survey by GM Eljanov at Modern Chess.

SwimmerBill

Thank you!

(I am also glad to see that a 2600 can err in a 4 rook endgame.)

ThrillerFan
SwimmerBill wrote:

Thank you!

(I am also glad to see that a 2600 can err in a 4 rook endgame.)

 

A 2600 chess player is not a perfectionist.  Neither is a 2800 player.  They just don't do really stupid stuff like hang material or ignore pawn structure.  They still make mistakes though.  LeBron James misses at the free throw line, doesn't he?  Tom Brady throws an interception, doesn't he?  Max Scherzer walks a batter, doesn't he?  You just don't see the ridiculous mistakes that 1500 players make.

TheRoboticNoob
pfren wrote:
TheRoboticNoob wrote:

not all 700s hang pieces

 

Very true. Some of them prefer hanging their king instead.

oh man.... i walked into that one

TheRoboticNoob

also thank you everyone for the suggestions i will check them out

SwimmerBill
pfren wrote:
EKAFC wrote:

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And of course the Schara cannot be a repertoire opening: it is applicable only against 3.Nc3.

The famous game Najdorf-Keres 1953 went  1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Nf3 c5 5.cxd5 cxd4 6.Qxd4 exd5  7.e4 Nc6 8.Bb5 a6 9.Bxc6+ bxc6 10.Ne5 Bb7 11.exd5 Nxd5 12.O-O
Be7 13.Nxc6 Bxc6 14.Qxg7 Rf8 15.Re1 Qd6 16.Ne4 1/2-1/2

& was sort of Schara-esque. My risk tolerance is high but not high enough to try that line in a real game.   -Bill

sndeww

king's indian defense, but in the future I hope to add the modern benoni into my repertoire. 

FoxCoyoteWolf

Queens Indian or Nimzo-Indian?

reimxyz

Because i like they positional chess and i can to play it with this opening

SwimmerBill
pfren wrote:
ThrillerFan wrote:
pfren wrote:

QGD, Tarrasch Defence.

A dynamic approach, with plenty of tactics. Also good for 1.c4, and 1.Nf3.

At your level though, the best "line" is not hanging pieces.

 

QGD Tarrasch Defense is a problem for Black now-a-days.  You need almost perfect play to survive after 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 c5 4.cxd5 exd5 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.dxc5!! - After the old 6.g3, Black is fine.

 

The 6.dxc5 line is nowadays analysed to death, and to a draw.

More than that, whoever does not like playing this line, can play (1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 c5 4.cxd5 exd5 5.Nf3) 5...Nf6, where 6.dxc5? is simply a mistake.

This was supposed to be bad for Black after 6.Bg5, but actually computers have shown that Black is fine after 6...Be6!, and currently the line is very trendy.

  Thanks for pointing out that line- I was unaware of it. I've been trying it as black vs a computer at increasing levels to prepare to use it otb. It is a very interesting line-- black's position often looks a bit loose to me but after playing it 30 or 40 times I'm confident that black is fine and the tries to crush it have tactics that rebound in black's favor. (also thanks for your comments on the Schara.)  - Bill