What does a Class E/D player need to know to play the Queen's Gambit?

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dpnorman

Hey guys! The other week, I posted a thread on here about my opening problems, saying that I didn't really know what I wanted to play because I didn't think my openings were that great and I wanted something simpler. I think I want to play the Queen's pawn openings from now on and play the Queen's Gambit against 1...d5. I know a decent amount of Q.G.D./Tartakower/Tarrasch/Orthodox theory since I play the Q.G.D. myself against the Queen's Gambit. I do want to know what else is necessary for me to know in opening theory to play the Queen's Gambit/Queen's Pawn opening.

I am rated between 1000 and 1100 USCF (although I have done very well at my last two tournaments so I expect my rating will go up more) and in the 1400s-1500 on here. I have played 1. e4 for most of my life so I want to have some useful information to start playing the Queen's Gambit. Thank you guys very much for answering :)

vinsvis

He needs to know that 'queen's gambit' doesn't actually mean 'gambit the queen'. Then he'll be fine.

dpnorman

By the way, guys, please don't just say "study the Benoni, the K.I.D, and the Grunfeld". Please tell me some lines or some moves that I can look into so I have some more ideas.

DrSpudnik

You need to know exactly what any other chess player needs to know.

You get better through experience when you realize that this works and that doesn't...The rest is all analytical skill, which you also pick up with experience.

dpnorman

I haven't played the Queen's Gambit before. I need to know something to play against black's good responses in order to have a decent opening.

dpnorman

Thanks, guys. This is helpful. What do I need to know of the Nf6 openings?

DrSpudnik

tons

blumzovich
dpnorman wrote:

Thanks, guys. This is helpful. What do I need to know of the Nf6 openings?

1. d4 Nf6  2. Bg5 and you can forget about learning all those other lines

DrSpudnik

And when you opponent plays 1.d4 e6 you need to know what you're doing when the game transposes into something that doesn't have 2. Bg5

DrSpudnik

wow, that's a big bird!

royalbishop

That it is really not a gambit as white offers a pawn it can win back.

royalbishop

I can add another one to the list.

Do not buy a chess book on the Queen's Gambit as no book is big enough to hold the endless amounts of variations you will see in games here.

dpnorman

Is there any simple set of moves I can play against most of these without that much difficulty? Is there anything stopping me from just sort of setting up d4 c4 Nc3 Nf3 e3 Qc2 Bd3 0-0 Re1 etc?

royalbishop

LOL

In your dreams. If you can get to 4 Nf3 with no problems celebrate!

dpnorman

What would be the problem with 4 Nf3?

royalbishop

Your playing at Chess.com!

They do not just let you set up your opening patterns. I still see something new that i never saw before using it. We could be here all weekend and i still could not bring you up to speed.

My suggestion play your friends using it first. Study games of GrandMasters that use it. Find Vote Chess games where they are played here. Everything else is just luck.

royalbishop

No problem with 4 Nf3 if you can reach it withot being attacked in a game at chess.com. And when you do you better have a plan in mind and just no aimlessly moving your pieces as your opponent is building up an attack that they are famaliar with against the QGD.

Even in some master games Black attack early long before either should castle. If not careful the game can end in the early 20's. I think the Queen's Gambit has the most defenses that can be used against it added the variations of each.

DrSpudnik

Would it be wrong to mention the Dutch here?

royalbishop

And the Duthch is only good for black as a surprise.

And if you do not know now to beat with the Queens Gambit you will find the next playery and the player after that and etc will use it till you find a way to beat it (At chess.com). 

It is a good as surprise but if that does not work i say black is in trouble. When i first encountered it i could not find it any QG reference. I found a way to beat it buying a general chess book. Then i was able to get creative with ways to beat it.

dpnorman

Absolutely not! Is there any Dutch theory I need? I have heard that against the Dutch, most d4 players just play a Catalan-like setup with g3 and Bg2. Is this true?