If you like the QGD, you can play 1...e6 2...d5 and see if White is interested in maintaining his English approach to the game.
I couldn't have said it any better.
1)...e6!
2) Nc3, d5
The most natural way to play from here would be:
3) d4, Be7
3) d4, Bb4
3) cxd5, exd5 4) d4, Nf6
Hello QGD! That's if you like getting into these kind of games.
you could play 1 c6!!!!!. so you can play d5 on move 2 transposing into Slav most of the times. if your opponent plays 2 e4 you still play d5 transposing into the canal variation of the caro cann
This would probably mess people up because black controls d5.
This would probably mess people up because black controls d5.
1...e5 followed by Nf6 is perfectly ok, you got into trouble in what did later. Can't say exactly what unless you want to show game?
There is no good answer...
Depends on what u play against 1.d4, and also what u play against sicilian (if u play closed sicilian, then 1...e5 followed by Nc6, g6... And if u play open sicilian, then Nf6-d5...).
Lol, just noticed it is a 8 years old topic... Anyway, what I said is still correct.
The best defense against the English Opening is 1...Nf6. If White is going to play a queenside opening, his first two moves will be d4 and c4. You just ignore the sequence they are played in and set up your counterposition the way you normally would against 1. d4, and let that mother set up his position accordingly.
Preparing against c4 has two aspects: of course you can apply 1.c4 e5, but White could also play a little sneakier 1.Nf3 Nf6 2.c4 and now the e5 line doesn't work any more. 2.... g6 3. Nc3 d5 4.cxd5 Nxd5 5.Qb3 (or Qa4+) is a variation of the Anglo-Grünfeld. Or you could play a symmetrical line with 2... c5 (but this can never be bad for White).
PS: of course 1.c4 e6 is possible too, but Black can not force a QGD, as White could also play 2.e4. Similarly 1.c4 Nf6 2.Nc3 e6 3.e4 (Mikenas, if i am not mistaken).
1.c4 e6 2e4 d5 isn't a problem for black. White can delay d4, and try setups with b3 and /or g3, or e3. Objectively though the classical queens gambit declined setup with pawn in centre and developing peices can't be refuted by white. It is a good a response as any for an inexperienced player to try.
Possibly helpful:
Beating Unusual Openings by Richard Palliser (2006)
https://web.archive.org/web/20140627072813/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen107.pdf
Grandmaster Repertoire 19 - Beating Minor Openings by Victor Mikhalevski
http://www.qualitychess.co.uk/ebooks/BeatingMinorOpenings-excerpt.pdf
http://www.davidsmerdon.com/?p=1888
How's this?
Very bad opening from both sides.
Black's first moves are too passive, and white's Qb3-xb7 was horrible...
How's this?
Very bad opening from both sides.
Black's first moves are too passive, and white's Qb3-xb7 was horrible...
Thanks for the insights.Enlighten me,showing the ideal moves with an example if you don't mind
But,i don't play passively always.May be I was waiting to see his response,cos i don't know how to play against English lines.But it worked well i the end,so no worries.Still i think i can never be really good at chess.
It's all a matter of taste, just just need to know what type of game suits you with Black.
1 ...c6 is an annoying move for an English player. Quite fine if Black plays Slavic or Semi-Slavic vs Q Gambit and also plays Caro_Kann vs 1 e4. If White won't play d4 or e4 early, then Black just uses aReti set up with Bf5 or Bg4. Very solid approach. Less need to study opening theory for Black if Caro-Kann and Slav is what you do.
e5 is a Sicilian down a tempo, c5 is more placid but drawish, Nf6 is most flexible.All have a lot of book theory.
Kasparov tried 1 ..g6 with good results - fine if you can play reverse Grand Prix, Modern Averbakh or King's Indian, depending on what white does. Requires the most flexibility. Most interesting if you're looking for complexity and good counterattacking chances. Look up some Kasparov's game to see how he played it.