what is the best solid opening for tactical players

what is the best solid openings for tactical players?

for white and black?

tnx

Sande, I like the english and Italian for white.

For Black I like the sicilian defense.

There are solid openings and solid ways of playing almost all others but you'll need to be prepared.  I assume the idea is to avoid losing rather than maximizing a chance to win?

Solid and tactical, well ...  if you mean solid (having no weaknesses) while allowing plenty of chances to exercise tactical means to gain an advantage over your opponent you are out of luck.

I think un-refuted tactical gambits is a better way to put it.

Evans or King's for White, Latvian & Budapest for Black.

Define unrefuted.  All that you give have lines leading to equality or better for your opponent.

 I mean that none of these gambits has a "bust" such as exists in various lines of say, the Englund gambit.

Yes, there are lines in all these that lead to equality & this is all that the opponent can hope for, but the gambiteer has real practical chances of a good middlegame position with at least some compensation for being down in material.

That is how I'd define unrefuted. 

maybe the french...? idk, it offers very good counterattacking possibilities and its a closed position

I like the french for this sort of thing. It can be as solid or as crazy as you want it to be. For example there is the super solid "fort knox" variation for those of you who want to draw and be very safe.

Or variations like the winawer or my favourite MacCutcheon offer excellent counterattacking chances and crazy middlegames.

Oh, you might also consider some of the less-played sicilian variations like the Kan/Taimanov/Classical. 

Solid? Definitely the Danish gambit.

Logically, you could study the game explorer and choose some openings that have the highest percentages of drawing (which mean they are pretty solid for both sides). I think the English opening, for example, is quite drawish. The Sicilian almost always leads to a result and I've never been good in playing that. I've always felt comfortable playing the Queen's Gambit and I had some good results. Strangely enough, a lot more people now play Nf6 instead of d5, so you may never get there. Against Nf6 I usually play (as White) the Queen's Indian but the games are always difficult. I think a lot depends on your pawn structures. Closed pawn structures with little mobility for your pieces lead to drawish games. On the other hand, when everything is wide open, anything can happen.

The Semi-Slav is really solid that can turn tactical quickly.  I can say the same thing about the French

give me a clear comments

The clearest comments come from the clearest questions.  What do you mean by solid, or tactical?  That you don't want to lose and have no positional skills? 

The clearest answer to the question, as it is currently phrased:  They do not exist.

I think the Dutch Opening is a good opening if you want a tactical battle.

classic 2 knights system. You basically own the center and can take it slow or fast after that.

The London System as white.....................

what i mean is not easy to lose.

and many tactical plays for white.

Chess is 99.9 percent skill. The opening barely helps you. But if you still believe the game is all about the opening and want a solid opening id recommend the roy lopez for white (any variation you like) and the caro-kann for black.

If that is your definition (and it is not a bad one), then the answer is easy. The Colle-Koltanowski system is infamous for being "solid." It is not considered as ambitious as other openings, but Black has to be extremely patient in trying to find an advantage. A lot of people belittle the Colle because they hate having to try to win against it as Black. At least three World Champions [Euwe, Alekhine, and Capablanca] played it. Alekhine played it a World Championship match. Colle himself beat Max Euwe with it in a simul.

The Colle-Koltanowski also begets a greater frequency of Bxh7+ sacrificial attacks than any other opening in chess [that sacrifice is actually called "The Colle Sacrifice" sometimes.]

The Colle-Zukertort (the other Colle) is less tactical but harder to neutralise (because the center does not open up as readily). 

Palliser wrote a good book on the Colle-Koltanowski if you are interested in that opening. I wrote a book on the Colle-Zukertort.

You can read a short introduction to both Colle Systems here.

You can find more resources at my Colle System Resources Page.