What is the worst gambit?

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Sea_TurtIe

yeah but if black knows how to survive the opening they will just be winning

Sea_TurtIe

completely

AhmedAryan

Muzio gambit is a super unpopular gambit. I think at the lower levels, like mine ( 900 Elo ) you can very well get away with it. Unless I meet somebody who studies openings at the 900 Elo level too, well uh.... yeah. Very unlikely though. Queen blunders happen in 99% of the games over here.

TheSampson
AhmedAryan wrote:
JBirdpw wrote:
OctopusSqueeze2007 wrote:
JBirdpw wrote:

it's sooooooooo bad

You think the Englund gambit is bad? Check this line lol.

you’re kidding, right?

Alright here are the best moves against Qe7

White is winning in the first line. His rook is more active, he has active development, while black has a vulnerable queen, a lack of development, and an isolated d pawn.

In the second line, white is still winning by much more. Apparently this was Stockfish’s best line after Qxa1. White won two pawns for his sacrificed a pawn, and removed the black king’s castling rights.

Now, here are the actual best moves since move 1.

Black’s knight is under serious pressure and his pawns will be doubled, creating serious positional weaknesses black does not have compensation for.
As you can see, this cheap trick is easily refuted and saying it’s good because white can blunder and you immediately win the game is a terrible way to play chess. Do you play the Scholar’s Mate? Well, this is exactly like it, but slightly more discreet.

White will never fall for this over 500 ELO. If they don’t, you might as well resign because you’re losing. You could’ve played something actually legitimate, like the Nimzo-Indian or the QGD. You decided to play some garbage that gives you a losing position, but “justifies” it because you can try a cheap trick. Bobby BoJanglles is a 1300 who sings about tricks on YouTube and is not an actual chess teacher, believe it or not.

TheSampson
TheSampson wrote:
AhmedAryan wrote:
JBirdpw wrote:
OctopusSqueeze2007 wrote:
JBirdpw wrote:

it's sooooooooo bad

You think the Englund gambit is bad? Check this line lol.

you’re kidding, right?

Alright here are the best moves against Qe7

White is winning in the first line. His rook is more active, he has active development, while black has a vulnerable queen, a lack of development, and an isolated d pawn.

In the second line, white is still winning by much more. Apparently this was Stockfish’s best line after Qxa1. White won two pawns for his sacrificed a pawn, and removed the black king’s castling rights.

Now, here are the actual best moves since move 1.

Black’s knight is under serious pressure and his pawns will be doubled, creating serious positional weaknesses black does not have compensation for.
As you can see, this cheap trick is easily refuted and saying it’s good because white can blunder and you immediately win the game is a terrible way to play chess. Do you play the Scholar’s Mate? Well, this is exactly like it, but slightly more discreet.

White will never fall for this over 500 ELO. If they don’t, you might as well resign because you’re losing. You could’ve played something actually legitimate, like the Nimzo-Indian or the QGD. You decided to play some garbage that gives you a losing position, but “justifies” it because you can try a cheap trick. Bobby BoJanglles is a 1300 who sings about tricks on YouTube and is not an actual chess teacher, believe it or not.

since move 2*

1… e5, I daresay, is a mistake

GYG
TheSampson wrote:

Now, here are the actual best moves since move 1.

Where did you find out about this line? I thought I invented it

and I would much prefer 6...Nxe5 7.Bxe5 Nf6

Black is worse, but I play that position alot and do just fine.

TheSampson
GYG wrote:
TheSampson wrote:

Now, here are the actual best moves since move 1.

Where did you find out about this line? I thought I invented it

and I would much prefer 6...Nxe5 7.Bxe5 Nf6

Black is worse, but I play that position alot and do just fine.

I found it in the analysis

AhmedAryan
TheSampson wrote:
AhmedAryan wrote:
JBirdpw wrote:
OctopusSqueeze2007 wrote:
JBirdpw wrote:

it's sooooooooo bad

You think the Englund gambit is bad? Check this line lol.

you’re kidding, right?

Alright here are the best moves against Qe7

White is winning in the first line. His rook is more active, he has active development, while black has a vulnerable queen, a lack of development, and an isolated d pawn.

In the second line, white is still winning by much more. Apparently this was Stockfish’s best line after Qxa1. White won two pawns for his sacrificed a pawn, and removed the black king’s castling rights.

Now, here are the actual best moves since move 1.

Black’s knight is under serious pressure and his pawns will be doubled, creating serious positional weaknesses black does not have compensation for.
As you can see, this cheap trick is easily refuted and saying it’s good because white can blunder and you immediately win the game is a terrible way to play chess. Do you play the Scholar’s Mate? Well, this is exactly like it, but slightly more discreet.

White will never fall for this over 500 ELO. If they don’t, you might as well resign because you’re losing. You could’ve played something actually legitimate, like the Nimzo-Indian or the QGD. You decided to play some garbage that gives you a losing position, but “justifies” it because you can try a cheap trick. Bobby BoJanglles is a 1300 who sings about tricks on YouTube and is not an actual chess teacher, believe it or not.

When I was writing the comment, I'd say I wasn't. Now, after realizing how bad it is, and now seeing this comment, I think I was literally daydreaming when writing it. Also, one thing, I never learned a single opening from Bobby BoJanglles. If I say I know the Blackburne Shilling gambit trap, it does not automatically mean you can say that I learnt it specifically from Bobby BoJanglles. If you say "i got to 1400 elo in a week after unsubscribing to him", it has zero meaning to me. First, the sentence itself is too obscure to use, and if you're gonna say that, tell me, why can't i just say "i gained 100 elo in half an hour after exiting that thread"? Yeah, why can't I? Bobby BoJanglles, you don't like him because he made a few videos on opening traps and became popular. If you ever play the Fried Liver attack I think very well you're going to disagree with me, but most of the time I win against it. I don't only play on chess.com, so I'll put them here.

I don't have a record of the rest of this game so if I try to recall it it'll go horribly wrong, but I ended up winning this game. Mostly because Qe4 is a bad move. If you're still going to play the Fried Liver attack even though you know that you're eventually going to encounter somebody who knows how to deal with it, well... heck, go become a "trap youtuber" for all you like, make a video on how to play it. It's equal and yet you're saying it's losing for black. Now I get you're gonna say it's different cause it's equal and stuff, but the point stands. You're not just going to randomly go through games at 100-300 Elo, or even 300-700 Elo, and say to anybody who plays an opening trap ever in their lives, "haha Bobby BoJanglles fan" and say he's bad cause he got popular off a video of the Blackburne Shilling gambit. I don't watch Bobby BoJanglles anymore, but I guarantee Bobby Bojanglles does not have just specifically 1 video on a "you have to know this" joke. Yes, I don't care if that specific line came from the thread where Ilampozhil got proved wrong about the bataov gambit, you're just going to hate him for the rest of your life just because he made a simple joke about the Blackburne Shilling gambit?

AhmedAryan

This isn't the worst gambit, but the Franco-Hiva gambit can be listed.

AhmedAryan

Just checked depth 40 analysis on Muzio gambit and that was enough to change my mind.

pleewo

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Refrigerator321
AhmedAryan wrote:
JBirdpw wrote:
OctopusSqueeze2007 wrote:
JBirdpw wrote:

it's sooooooooo bad

You think the Englund gambit is bad? Check this line lol.

Bro your opponent will not play like that unless they have less than four brain cells

Get refuted

cars367

Kings gambit accepted: tumbleweed variation. You move your king on move 3. Need I say more?

cars367

BTW it is E4 E5 F4 Exf4 Kf2? Or Ke2?

AhmedAryan
PotatoesAndChess wrote:
AhmedAryan wrote:
JBirdpw wrote:
OctopusSqueeze2007 wrote:
JBirdpw wrote:

it's sooooooooo bad

You think the Englund gambit is bad? Check this line lol.

Bro your opponent will not play like that unless they have less than four brain cells

Get refuted

A person with less than three braincells will not read the what's on the page before responding to a post.

TitanChess666
The mosquito gambit is the worst gambit. That is d4 e5? dxe5 Qh4?. It is almost +4 for white
PLXMN2
Latvian Gambit
PLXMN2
Wait a minute I am crazy obviously coca-cola gambit
iceyww

Jerome gambit

24xru

Why