What is this gambit called? 1.e4 Nf6 2.c4?

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RLopez05

Just curious if anyone had the name of this gambit, I guess it is technically not a "gambit" move but you are leaving the e4 pawn hanging to bring the Knight in.  3 developing moves for white vs 1 from black

ponz111

It is not a gambit [or should not be a gambit] --it is just a very bad move.

Conquistador

It's called the English Opening a pawn down.

Spiritbro77

How is it developing for white? You've developed your Queen and WAY too early to boot.

 

I agree with Conquistador, it's the English a pawn down.

CJ_P

It's a bullet / blitz premove gambit.

Some players like 1. e4 e5 2. c4. So not expecting the Alekhine, white premoves c4.

Very powerful the premove gambits.

RLopez05
There are other continuations that might be better for white, just using queen move as example.
ponz111
RLopez05 wrote:
There are other continuations that might be better for white, just using queen move as example.

White has a completely losing game whatever he does.

Squishey

It's a free pawn lol.

dpnorman

The Garbage Gambit

A1Rajjpuut

The "BlackWins Variation"

ponz111
Ed_Seedhouse wrote:

Well, this position appears in 24 games in the Chessbase "Big 2015" database, as recently as 2012 and with one played as white by a 2600 player, albeit against a player about 500 points lower rated.  White won eight of those 22 games, as did black, with the rest draws.

The most popular move is actually g6 which occurs 11 times and Nxe4 only twice!

As for losing, none of the computer engines I checked with including Stockfish 9 gives black more than +0.49 advantage.  Not a good opening but hardly losing by force!

But you won't catch me playing it!

Don't care how many times this stupid variation was played or what some computer engines say--it loses.

MSC157
petrosianpupil wrote:

No I think the Jadoubowski is 1 c4 Nf6 2 e4

Well... Laughing

MSC157

http://www.chess.com/groups/forumview/omega-achilles-gambit-1c4-nf6-2e4?quote_id=6517021

RLopez05

Thank you, that is it! I knew it had a sweet name "Achilles-Omega gambit!"

The move order is different than what I originally posted but still reaches the same position and still "gambits" or gives up the e-4 pawn with 2...Nxe4.

ANOK1

opening lines  in the centre do not see this as losing btw but white must be very dynamic to make the investment pay

has it a name ?probably but i dont know it

i wouldnt follow up with queen c2 d4 looks better as the options for developing improve

perhaps a different move order tho

1 c4 knf6 2 d4 d6  3 e4 when the centre is yours offer the sac