What to do in the italian game when my opponent plays 3.d3

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AleksChess03

AleksChess03

1.e4 e5 2.nf3 nc6 3.bc4 d3

AleksChess03

I really need help

ThrillerFan

Do you mean 3...d6?  It is a passive move and White should take the center with 4.d4.  If Black plays an anticipated ...Be7, it is likely to directly transpose to the Hungarian Defense with 4...d6 (1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Be7 and now 4.d4 is best and can be answered with 4...exd4 and 4...d6.  With Black playing 3...d6, all he has done is lost flexibility and is virtually forced to play the 4...d6 Hungarian.

sndeww

 

AleksChess03

okkk

IMKeto

Opening Principles:

  1. Control the center squares – d4-e4-d5-e5
  2. Develop your minor pieces toward the center – piece activity is the key
  3. Castle
  4. Connect your rooks

Tactics...tactics...tactics...

The objective of development is about improving the value of your pieces by increasing the importance of their roles. Well-developed pieces have more fire-power than undeveloped pieces and they do more in helping you gain control.

Now we will look at 5 practical things you can do to help you achieve your development objective.

They are:

  1. Give priority to your least active pieces.
  • Which piece needs to be developed (which piece is the least active)
  • Where should it go (where can its role be maximized)
  1. Exchange your least active pieces for your opponent’s active pieces.
  2. Restrict the development of your opponent’s pieces.
  3. Neutralize your opponent’s best piece.
  4. Secure strong squares for your pieces.

 

Don’t help your opponent develop.

There are 2 common mistakes whereby you will simply be helping your opponent to develop:

  1. Making a weak threat that can easily be blocked
  2. Making an exchange that helps your opponent to develop a piece
sndeww

@IMBacon did you copy paste that from your bio?? lol

IMKeto
SNUDOO wrote:

@IMBacon did you copy paste that from your bio?? lol

Nope, its from what i have on my laptop.  I am in the process of writing a book.  Opening Principles and what not.

sndeww

Ok nice

IMKeto
SNUDOO wrote:

Ok nice

Obviously geared toward beginners, and up Im thinking USCF C players.

sndeww

Yeah, I’m uscf c and sometimes don’t think straight with openings

Daniel-Madison

Or maybe

and just play a Lolli attack with the extra move c3 inserted for White. (Black lost a tempo playing d6-d5.) For that reason, 4... Be7 is better for Black.

Daniel-Madison
SNUDOO wrote:

 

Also this but with 8 Bxf7 and Qb3 / Qf3 to keep the queens on the board.

Teraster
Daniel-Madison wrote:

Or maybe

and just play a Lolli attack with c3 and d6 inserted. For that reason, 4... Be7 is better for Black.

Best move here is not D4. The theory here is Nxf7 with sacrifice on f7, after kxf7, Qf3 with check and hitting the knight on d5. and if Ke5 there's Nc3 with development. This theory is called Fried Liver Attack.

misspeggy57

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Daniel-Madison
Teraster wrote:
Daniel-Madison wrote:

Or maybe

and just play a Lolli attack with c3 and d6 inserted. For that reason, 4... Be7 is better for Black.

Best move here is not D4. The theory here is Nxf7 with sacrifice on f7, after kxf7, Qf3 with check and hitting the knight on d5. and if Ke5 there's Nc3 with development. This theory is called Fried Liver Attack.

You can't play Nc3 in this variation with a pawn on c3.

What do you play here as White? Without Nc3 available, seems difficult to continue the attack, and you are down a piece.

Teraster
Daniel-Madison wrote:
Teraster wrote:
Daniel-Madison wrote:

Or maybe

and just play a Lolli attack with c3 and d6 inserted. For that reason, 4... Be7 is better for Black.

Best move here is not D4. The theory here is Nxf7 with sacrifice on f7, after kxf7, Qf3 with check and hitting the knight on d5. and if Ke5 there's Nc3 with development. This theory is called Fried Liver Attack.

You can't play Nc3 in this variation with a pawn on c3.

What do you play here as White? Without Nc3 available, seems difficult to continue the attack, and you are down a piece.

I almost forgot about that. If you wanna to continue attacking through progress, play a natural development. On move 8, try to castle and target the pawn on e5 followed by Re1 and Bf4. Look to the analysis, white has the advantage by playing d4 breaking the pawn on e5. just think that the king is a bit exposed to the game.

Daniel-Madison

I just think Na5 is a good move no matter what White does. If you take, I recapture with the queen, attacking your queen, so you have to move it. And if you retreat the bishop, on d3 is blocks the d pawn while e2 is looks really passive. It also allows me to play Qf6, and Black is starting to improve. The king is exposed though, you do have some compensation for the piece. Any mistake Black makes could be fatal. Still, I think I'd prefer to have Black here.

Muisuitglijder
SNUDOO schreef:

@IMBacon did you copy paste that from your bio?? lol

He's like that other guy who also likes to copy and paste when opportunities arise... kindaspongey or something