That sounds interesting. These lines are pretty much what Malaniuk recommends in his excellent book.
Petrosian, if you would like to try a class, Gavrikov is extremely helpful. I think it would be a great investment if you want to get your game to the next level ;)
BirdBrain , I understand that.
Reversed openings are by no means the same as their originals , but it depends on the first move(s).
After 1.c4 e5 , there a many moves to deviate from a "normal" Sicilian and the same is true for 1.f4 or any other transpos.
@Petrosian.
I think Malaniuk was a very interesting and super aggresive player. I am pleased he is remembered.
He played all kinds of original
offbeat games , like Julian Hodgson(UK) and Ian Rodgers(AUS) .. this was the 1980-ies
As far as I know , all the "inferior" openings or defences like the Scandinavian , The Dutch and even the Phillidor have not been refuted yet.
Anyway , as we all know , it is Black who desides what opening to play.
@Petro : happy man : Good boy ,
I've tried the Tromp for three seasons in the club.
Startedwith the Tromp and later found the London more pleasing. Now I have a crush on the KIA and the Icelandic Gambit. Gotta stay cool , haha,
Both openings give away the advantage , but man .. Black will have a hard time.
Chess ,,
@Petro : happy man : Good boy ,
I've tried the Tromp for three seasons in the club.
Startedwith the Tromp and later found the London more pleasing. Now I have a crush on the KIA and the Icelandic Gambit. Gotta stay cool , haha,
Both openings give away the advantage , but man .. Black will have a hard time.
Chess ,,
I DO like the Icelandic Gambit!
Sam, the sole reason some say the Dutch is better than the Bird is that after 1. d4, 1...f5 claims control over e4. In the Bird, White plays 1. f4, but Black has yet to commit to ...d5. Therefore, he can play another system to combat 1. f4. They are both similar (obviously), but even some of the highest rated Dutch players don't play the Bird due to move order intricacies. Maybe a better player than me can answer that better, but that is what I understand from what I have heard from higher-rated players - it has to do with controlling the e4-square, and that White has committed to the d4 push.
For instance, From's Gambit (1.f4 e5!? 2. fxe5 d6 3. exd6 Bxd6 with cheap threats on the king already) is available against the Bird but not against the Dutch since the d-pawn isn't available to go one square forward. Also, I find that against a sort of stonewall attack, this structure is supposed to be good (recommended by Silman, I think?):
I think there should be study on 1...f5. I truly wonder if a person can pick up such a system against the Bird and make it fly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_mK0nrrsbI
Check out this screenshot, with Fritz' opinion of the setup.
https://gyazo.com/d2718591995c42bbab971ef9ad6042bc
White has a lot of options. The Switz gambit is very hard for black to meet unprepared. Taylor did not give the best lines in his book and recomende b3 Bb2 as it gives black some problems but f4 f5 e4 fxd Nc3 Nf6?? is what people play and g4. Wagner the guy who came up with the line challenged a lot of titled players with the pre moves up to Nc3 to test it and black was slaughtered. Very rare moves as 3 d3 more common to try a from reversed which isnt as good as the from with black.
I am aware of the Swiss, I actually taught that line to a guy back when. I just am curious if a player could adopt this line (I speak as a person who always plays From's Gambit against White and is fairly happy with it).
To Ram,
Why not join the group Dynamic Dutch Defense? You'll get a chance to play the Dutch as White and as Black in match play.
Find us under Share -- Groups and Teams
Interesting is 2.Nc3-->e4. If white gets to play this he is better.
Robert, I just posted a link from a lesson Gavrikov gave me, and he recommended 2...d5.
Sam, the sole reason some say the Dutch is better than the Bird is that after 1. d4, 1...f5 claims control over e4. In the Bird, White plays 1. f4, but Black has yet to commit to ...d5. Therefore, he can play another system to combat 1. f4. They are both similar (obviously), but even some of the highest rated Dutch players don't play the Bird due to move order intricacies. Maybe a better player than me can answer that better, but that is what I understand from what I have heard from higher-rated players - it has to do with controlling the e4-square, and that White has committed to the d4 push.