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2good4u734

Yeah I know right

X_PLAYER_J_X

WARNING ERROR!

Post # 3 is not the Colle system!

Post # 3 is the Stone Wall Attack!

 

The Stone Wall Attack's signature pawn moves are d4 and f4 as white.

The line is similar to the Dutch Stone Wall which is played with the black pieces with pawns on d5 and f5.

 

The Colle System is the below line.


The move 3.e3 is a signature move of the Colle because if the dark square bishop was to move.

The position would turn into another line entirely.

It would turn into a relative line of the Colle.

If the move 3.Bf4 is played the position is known as the London System.

Which I have wrote an article about.

http://www.chess.com/blog/X_PLAYER_J_X/london-system

 

If the move 3.Bg5 is played the position can turn into either the Torre Attack or the Trompowsky Attack.

 

So as you can see the Colle system, London System, Torre Attack, and Trompowsky Attack are all family friendly lines.

 

I would recommend any and all of the above lines to beginner players!

Have a good day! Cool

skoth

no colle is this variation:



X_PLAYER_J_X

My My My people don't know what the Colle is.

How disturbing!

They have been playing a line under the wrong name all this time.

Amazing!

@Post #  31

The position final position you are showing is of the Torre Attack

or

It could of been started as the Trompowsky Attack than tranposed into the Torre Attack.

If you had a different move order.

The below moves are the main way of getting into the Trompowsky Attack.

After whites move 2.Bg5

Black has tryed several different moves.

2...Ne4

2...e6

2...d5

2...c5

2...g6

I will not list them all I will only list the above 5 since they have been the most played moves.

If Black choices to play the move 2...e6

The position can enter into the Torre Attack position.

The Torre Attack and the Trompowsky have different move orders; however, the positions can tranpose or entermingle with each other.

The Trompowsky is usually played after 1.d4  Nf6 2.Bg5

The Torre Attack is usually played after 1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Bg5


Yet there are ways of making the lines tranpose into each other if the opponent helps make it happen of course.

 



adumbrate

Some of the point of colle is to get the bishop out of the pawn chain, and your first variation did not.

2good4u734

Why is everybody suggesting what they think is the colle

Ziggy_Zugzwang

And just so no one is confused this is the Collie:

profmain

The English.

umpteenthsockpuppet
skotheim2 wrote:

Some of the point of colle is to get the bishop out of the pawn chain, and your first variation did not.

Wrong as can be plainly seen at http://www.365chess.com/eco/D05_Colle_system  You are plainly better at bullet than you are at opening theory

X_PLAYER_J_X
skotheim2 wrote:

Some of the point of colle is to get the bishop out of the pawn chain, and your first variation did not.

You are the 4th or 5th comment on this thread which has tryed to speak of the Colle System

You like the others before and after you have no idea what you are talking about.

In lines such as the LONDON SYSTEM white moves the dark bishop OUTSIDE of the pawn chain.

The draw back of moving the bishop OUTSIDE of the pawn chain is:

Black has some trappy lines which try to target the B2 pawn.

I have talked about this in my article:

http://www.chess.com/blog/X_PLAYER_J_X/london-system

 


The Colle System keeps the bishop INSIDE of the pawn chain!

The reason they do this is to Protect the B2 pawn.


The benefit of keeping the bishop INSIDE of the pawn chain is they avoid any tricky lines black may have which target the B2 pawn.

jb2shoes

Zb. Colle system seems solid advice