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paul-977

What's the best move for white after this pawn move from black?

paul-977
Toldsted

Why do you care for the best move in your 3th move, when you did not care at the 2th move?

paul-977

Why does it matter? I want to know what move is to play im this particular situation

continuedkrombopulos22

why not just ask the chess engine

paul-977
continuedkrombopulos22 wrote:

why not just ask the chess engine

How? In the game review it doesn't show me the best options for the first few moves. Or atleast I can't find it

Toldsted

3.e5 is best. Just like 2.e5 were.

GooseChess
Toldsted wrote:

Why do you care for the best move in your 3th move, when you did not care at the 2th move?

OP possibly doesn't realize the problem began by not challenging the knight, and if so your cryptic insult isn't gonna explain that to him.

continuedkrombopulos22 wrote:

why not just ask the chess engine

Engines are terrible at telling <1000 Elo players what openings they should play. It's arguably the one part of the game that a beginner should absolutely consult a human.

Sorry about those dudes, they mean to help I'm sure. Anyways yes, Toldsted is right that playing e5 on your second move is best, as then you'll probably get to kick his knight again later too. That said, Nc3 is perfectly fine, played by Masters who don't want to go into that line. However at a low level I absolutely recommend playing e5 on move 2.

As for the current position, I'd play e5 on move 3 too. Followed by d4 on the next move.

However there is a line where both sides liquidate a lot that might be tricky to avoid, it's fine for white but maybe something you don't like.

As for using the engine, go to tools->analysis. It'll show you the engine eval for any move you enter. However as I mentioned engines, while helpful, are not great for picking openings. Better is Explore, which is a tab on analysis that shows what Masters actually played and how often they won/drew/loss. Even better Imo is a players database, lichess has one, that shows games from all players.

Fwiw better opening lines won't matter much at your level, outside of avoiding or learning traps. If gaining Elo is the only goal, just remember to develop a piece with every move if you can, and don't move any pieces twice (if you can help it) until the king is castled and all pieces are developed. You'll usually end up with 6 pieces against 3 pieces, especially in an opening like this where you force black to waste time moving the same knight again and again. Hope this helps!

MarwanGaming231

Hi Man

paul-977
GooseChess wrote:
Toldsted wrote:

Why do you care for the best move in your 3th move, when you did not care at the 2th move?

OP possibly doesn't realize the problem began by not challenging the knight, and if so your cryptic insult isn't gonna explain that to him.

continuedkrombopulos22 wrote:

why not just ask the chess engine

Engines are terrible at telling <1000 Elo players what openings they should play. It's arguably the one part of the game that a beginner should absolutely consult a human.

Sorry about those dudes, they mean to help I'm sure. Anyways yes, Toldsted is right that playing e5 on your second move is best, as then you'll probably get to kick his knight again later too. That said, Nc3 is perfectly fine, played by Masters who don't want to go into that line. However at a low level I absolutely recommend playing e5 on move 2.

As for the current position, I'd play e5 on move 3 too. Followed by d4 on the next move.

However there is a line where both sides liquidate a lot that might be tricky to avoid, it's fine for white but maybe something you don't like.

As for using the engine, go to tools->analysis. It'll show you the engine eval for any move you enter. However as I mentioned engines, while helpful, are not great for picking openings. Better is Explore, which is a tab on analysis that shows what Masters actually played and how often they won/drew/loss. Even better Imo is a players database, lichess has one, that shows games from all players.

Fwiw better opening lines won't matter much at your level, outside of avoiding or learning traps. If gaining Elo is the only goal, just remember to develop a piece with every move if you can, and don't move any pieces twice (if you can help it) until the king is castled and all pieces are developed. You'll usually end up with 6 pieces against 3 pieces, especially in an opening like this where you force black to waste time moving the same knight again and again. Hope this helps!

Thanks very much, that was very helpful happy.png