What's with this opening?

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supware

I have a friend who's recently started playing this weird number:

I think it looks terrible and indeed the computer prefers Black already after 2 moves, suggesting an immediate 2. ... c6.  What disadvantage has White given himself after 2. Bb5, and what does Black seek to accomplish?

Yigor

The white's disadvantage in this Portuguese opening is the loss of 1 tempo and the initiative passes to black. peshka.png

atrolhavecome

basicly white says I wanna give black the advantage

 

supware
Yigor wrote:

The white's disadvantage in this Portuguese opening is the loss of 1 tempo and the initiative passes to black. 

Is it called Portuguese because it's like the Spanish, but worse? tongue.png

Yigor
sup_bro wrote:
Yigor wrote:

The white's disadvantage in this Portuguese opening is the loss of 1 tempo and the initiative passes to black. 

Is it called Portuguese because it's like the Spanish, but worse?

 

Who knows!? blitz.png The naming in chess is a chaotical and strange thing. tongue.png Probably, some Portuguese players used it. Here's the list of Portuguese games starting from the oldest one (1948):

https://www.chess.com/games/search?f=3293716&sort=8&page=1

 

Warning blitz.png: This Portuguese opening shouldn't be confounded with Scandinavian defense: Portuguese variation. 

 

supware
DeirdreSkye wrote:

It's a move without meaning. It doesn't prevent something , it doesn't control something , it doesn't prepare something and allows Black a comfortable game already from move 2.

 

Perfect! This is what I'll tell him, thank you happy.png

Robhad

Well, it's at least better than 2. Ba6! grin.png

Hadron
FantasticFantasy wrote:

It appears that White's attempting to allow you to chase the bishop with pawns, and allow him to eventually put his bishop on c2. Yes he's losing tempo, but his imaginary compensation is that black extended his queen side pawn structure out very early without developing pieces. However black can delay attacking the bishop and just develop normally. That's my guess too awkward bishop attack against the d7 pawn. Maybe he's hoping to play the Spanish in a different move order hoping you screw up your development. idk.

Let me start I have no opinion on whether the 2.Bb5!? is a good or a bad move. This post however I think is the most cogent because it at least tries to provide a summary of what might be behind such a move as 2.Bb5!? rather than either being flippant (#5) and or dogmatic (#6) 

Yigor
Hadron wrote:

Let me start I have no opinion on whether the 2.Bb5!? is a good or a bad move. This post however I think is the most cogent because it at least tries to provide a summary of what might be behind such a move as 2.Bb5!? rather than either being flippant (#5) and or dogmatic (#6) 

 

LoL How could I be flippant on such a serious subject as 2. Bb5 opening !?! grin.png We might call it Accelerated Ruy Lopezblitz.pngtongue.png

Hadron
Yigor wrote:
Hadron wrote:

Let me start I have no opinion on whether the 2.Bb5!? is a good or a bad move. This post however I think is the most cogent because it at least tries to provide a summary of what might be behind such a move as 2.Bb5!? rather than either being flippant (#5) and or dogmatic (#6) 

 

LoL How could I be flippant on such a serious subject as 2. Bb5 opening !?!  We might call it Hyperaccelerated Ruy Lopez

And I rest my case, your honor.